EMM over heating on a 200 Evinrude ficht (Same Old Problem)

[daselbee]

Re: EMM over heating on a 200 Evinrude ficht (Same Old Problem)

Regarding my post earlier about sh**ty CERTIFIED Evinrude mechanics, here is one I found from another site: " Drove 60 miles to Evinrude certified servicer to have the open circuit injector #3 I recently found reading high resistance replaced. After install and 3 hours of watching a couple mechanics stare at their laptop, I offered to help and I did the the upgrade of their Diagnostic software for them .and they were then able to load the new injector coefficients into my EMM All checked out on power up test in their tank, I drove to lake for test run."

 

[aerobat]

Re: EMM over heating on a 200 Evinrude ficht (Same Old Problem)

Regarding my post earlier about sh**ty CERTIFIED Evinrude mechanics

thats one of the reasons for a bad "reputation" of the fichts. when it goes into the deep of its electronics and EMM that engine is such f***ing complicated that even certified mechanics struggle to understand it fully in every regards.

when you have a problem with it you must have luck to meet a guy who really know these engines, as an average DIY you have no chance and mess more up than fix -so at the end of the day you tend to call it a "bad design" .

i,m curios if the etecs will keep their good reputation when they start to age and throw electronic problems.

 

[glenn property of pam]

Re: EMM over heating on a 200 Evinrude ficht (Same Old Problem)

the ficht/etec V6 sounds at idle completeley different, in fact it sounds more like V6 4 stroke. where is the secret to it, both engines are direct injected and not carbed .

look here .

The ficht at idle changes the timing on the fuel injectors so instead of the fuel being sprayed in at bdt (bottom dead center) the fuel is not sprayed in until the exhaust port is closed. This is so close to tdc that the spark is already firing as the fuel is sprayed in (muti spark something like 15 times) This is also why the spark plugs are indexed.

 

[seahorse5]

Re: EMM over heating on a 200 Evinrude ficht (Same Old Problem)

i,m curios if the etecs will keep their good reputation when they start to age and throw electronic problems.

The E-TEC has been around for a decade already, 10 full years.

 

[aerobat]

Re: EMM over heating on a 200 Evinrude ficht (Same Old Problem)

i,m curious if we hear some updates from the OP, but beyond that - this thread is a great example that the self named "ficht experts" burn way faster than the EMM .....

 

[dickjorkey]

Re: EMM over heating on a 200 Evinrude ficht (Same Old Problem)

LOL @ aerobat


First off, the engine is running great. Last time I ran it for around 5 hours and it gave no check engine lights. But, I had it connected to a temporary 6 gallon fuel tank.

I'm still trying to take out the old fuel from the boat's tank as it's a pain in the butt. Little by little I have been able to expunge four 5 gallon barrels of fuel. Once I get that fuel out, I'm going to let the tank dry up and then I should be good for summer. Hopefully!

 

[aerobat]

Re: EMM over heating on a 200 Evinrude ficht (Same Old Problem)

dickjorkey, let me quote myself :

but be aware that finally you will be asked for serious money based on internet experts recommendation. nobody will pay you off here if you send your EMM to dfi for a no needed rebuilt

when we would not be an ocean apart it would be an idea to drink a beer or two for your saved 1000 bucks for not rebuilding the EMM like the experts begged you to do and touch the glasses on the massive knowledge they have with fichts.

you can run the engine for 5 hours with a shot EMM, LOL...

 

[daselbee]

Re: EMM over heating on a 200 Evinrude ficht (Same Old Problem)

I am absolutely amazed. I have seen the three light salute before, once, and I was convinced it was a bad EMM, just as I am still convinced now that there is a heat related fault in his EMM. As I posted, he probably has a cold solder joint somewhere on the EMM printed circuit board. So, hopefully the OP as well as Aero are right, and the engine is fixed. HOWEVER!!! We still do not know what was done to fix it. Do we? No posts on the exact fix, did he change EMMS that we don't know about? I offered to swap a known good EMM in for testing, but he refused to do that....I for one do not know the precise fix that this OP did to rule out his "shot EMM".

 

[dickjorkey]

Re: EMM over heating on a 200 Evinrude ficht (Same Old Problem)

Sup guys. So, I finally can say I have fixed my engine. The issue was not related to the emm what so ever. The reason why the engine was over heating its because one of the thermostats was corroded thefore I believe it was not opening correctly hence causing water blockage through the engine block. I replaced both thermostats and my engine hasnt given me the three light salute, since. Subsequently I expunged all the water from the tank which was a pain in the butt. At several local shops they wanted to charge up to 200 bucks to clean my tank. And the last thing I did, was I replaced the impeller. And as a noobie it was a pain in the rear to get that damn thing out. Youtube and lots of reading gave me the knowledge to get this thing working again. Im gona post a video of the engine running without faults.

 

[dickjorkey]

Re: EMM over heating on a 200 Evinrude ficht (Same Old Problem)

 

[multimech]

Re: EMM over heating on a 200 Evinrude ficht (Same Old Problem)

BS, of course it was related to the EMM. The three fingered salute is always about the EMM. You are lucky your EMM has decided to play nice for awhile.

If it had been a regular overheat the EMM has codes that are specific to that overheat. There are codes written in the software to handle that. Yours threw the "blue screen of death" code because it has internal problems.


Get back to us when you have had a full season of boating without any more problems. With the boat going at all ranges of RPM without a hitch.

 

[Klvn]

I can't find how to start a new thread can anyone help me please.

 

[GA_Boater]

Go to the sub-forum section you want to post in and click on + New Topic. That opens a Create New Topic window.

 

[nodoubt]

Re: EMM over heating on a 200 Evinrude ficht (Same Old Problem)

That is the three finger salute. Your EMM needs replacement. It most likely is an overheated component that breaks connections when it heats up. It is a goner. Send it to BRP and get another one. Don't trust DFI technologies. I have sent multiple EMMS to them with this exact problem and it was not fixed.

You can't swap injector profiles with daselbee's EMM because there is a built in screw up from BRP. You must get new injector profiles from them, and they won't give them to you because yours are used. You can't save your old ones and use them, the engine will run like ****. I know I do this all of the time. Sorry guys, don't mean to rain on your parade.

same problem here....2000 model 225s
pulled the codes and it had 19 overheats before i ever bought it
it goes for months on end without doing it
cani send it directly to brp ?

 

[GA_Boater]

same problem here....2000 model 225s
pulled the codes and it had 19 overheats before i ever bought it
it goes for months on end without doing it
cani send it directly to brp ?

After almost 10 years on the forum it's time to read about hijacking old threads. Please read the Help Tip on top of the page.

 

[nodoubt]

After almost 10 years on the forum it's time to read about hijacking old threads. Please read the Help Tip on top of the page.

so sorry......didnt mean to cause such pain here......

 

[Groover]

All you have to do remove cooling line from from fuel evaporator and connect it to the emm first than down to fuel evaporator. Reverse cooling sequence and all good. So the ecm is cooled first. Fixed my problem of shutting down after 45mins of running time