O'Day Mariner Sailboat Restoration

[gsxrdan]

Nice project, looks like she'll be a fun ride. I noticed some of the the blisters seemed to be in a line, wonder if they were the result of fasteners in the mould?

 

[tpenfield]

3 coats of epoxy-based barrier coating. Now for the first coat of anti-fouling paint . . .



The paint I use is ePaint EP-2000. It is an eco-friendly water-based ablative paint that provides a nice smooth surface and keeps the sea critters away. I like the fact that it comes in white.

I think 3 coats will do fine for the initial painting, then a yearly re-coat. I am going to do the same for the rudder and the centerboard/keel. Probably will install the keel with the boat upside down like it is, since I can hoist it up and lower it into the keel trunk, etc.

 

[tpenfield]

3 Coats of anti-fouling done. I just need to do a final coat on the keel and rudder and let everything harden up. Then I can think about putting the keel in the boat.

 

[alldodge]

Looks real good, but I liked the whiter look of the barrier coat

 

[Corjen1]

Good work Ted, it looks Great!!!

 

[tpenfield]

Thanks, guys. This boat has been sitting in may garage for about a year and the Admiral has visions of the cars actually occupying the garage. So, I have been dedicating some time to it.

Once I get the bottom work done, my plan is to 'flip' it back over and put it back on the trailer. . . . of course that means I got to finish the work on the trailer

 

[tpenfield]

Boat Renaming ???

I am doing a bit of prep work on the upper portions of the hull, and the boat name is a concern. The name "Little Jeannie" seems like it has meaning to a previous owner, but it has no meaning to me.



So, I would like to change the name of the boat, but superstition surrounds boat renaming, as it can bring bad luck to the boat. Oddly enough, every boat that I have bought/owned up to this point had not previously been given a name. I named my Catalina 22 "Essentials", but did not/have not named my power boats.

I know that there are rituals/ceremonies that can please the Gods (Neptune among others) and ward off bad luck . . .

So, my question is to those who have renamed a boat, what have you done, or what is your ritual of choice?

I plan to take the current name off for painting, but am thinking that a new name of "Second Wind" is more meaningful to me, since it is my second sailboat. Also, I tend to like more 'generic' names for boats.

 

[Scott Danforth]

Tammy and I are in process of remaining the Rogue during our repaint as well. We will follow one of the renaming rituals including changing any reference to the name on here which I attempted to keep as a signature only.

I like the name second wind

 

[alldodge]

I just change the name and had a beer

 

[tpenfield]

UPDATE:

It has been a while since I have done much with the sailboat restoration. So, today I decided to flip the boat back over and begin working on the upper hull and deck sections.

I hooked up the straps that I used to flip the boat originally, but this time made sure I had the boat plenty high enough. I also did not wrap the straps around the rollers as that seemed to bind up pretty bad last time. I also had my blocks and stands to 'catch' the boat in case it fell or something like that.

Anyway... I got the boat tilted up to about 20-30 degrees of the total 180 degree rotation, and as I was making some adjustments, the boat decided that it wanted to roll all by itself . . . AND BOY DID IT within about 1 second elapsed time it rolled over on its own taking everything in the way with it. Talk about VERY EXCITING Not much I could do since it happened so fast, just get the heck out of the way . . .

Here is where the boat ended up . . .


Fortunately I had the boat raised enough and the straps tight enough that the hull did not bottom out as it rolled over. It was suspended up off of the floor by about 2". It did catch a block or something as it rolled and it snapped about 1 foot of the rub rail off, but that should not be too bad of a fix.



I finished righting the boat and am going to prep for putting it back on the trailer.



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In terms of next steps, I had considered ways of restoring the foam in the aft berth chambers, as the foam is still pretty wet and crumbly even after sitting in the garage for a year. I also need to do some other work in the stern section, but the access is more child size, given the size of the boat.

I think that I am going to separate the deck from the hull, since it is a sandwich design and held together primarily with staples. I removed a section of the rubrail backing strip at the stern to see how easily the hull and deck pieces might come apart.


I also checked the inside of the boat where the hull and deck meet, and that looks like it should come apart OK as well. Here is a picture of the inside seam.


It looks like I could separate the boat havles . . . it would be a bit of work, but do-able. . . Plus, I already have 1 foot of the seam separated with the piece of rail that snapped off

Anyway, there are staples about every 4" all the way around the boat and the rubrail backing (what you see in the picture of the 1 foot broken section) has staples in it too. So, that is about a bazillion staples . . . but I think I will have a much easier time doing the restoration work on the inside of the hull.

Almost like rebuilding the boat, but it should be good for another 40 years.

Thoughts, advice ?

 

[tpenfield]

I got the boat put back on the trailer and put the rig out in my yard.



I'll have to get a tarp for when the weather sets in.

I tried to separate the hull & deck along more of the stern rubrail. It looks like the boat will come apart fairly easily . . . no super duty adhesive holding the boat halves together, just a whole bunch of stainless steel staples.

Here is a section that I separated with about 20 mins work.


I can chip away at this over the next couple of months.

 

[GA_Boater]

You won't even need the BFH, Ted.

 

[tpenfield]

You won't even need the BFH, Ted.

Probably not . . . of course, I have not been able to find that thing since cleaning the garage last year I'm sure there will be a few 'gotchas' along the way.

 

[kcassells]

Ted,
i think the boat rolled cause you ticked her off by moving her outa the garage!:joyous: Looking great. Maybe think about moving her back in. And that will allow you to change her name.
Like me...1 day at a time.
KC

 

[tpenfield]

Yea, I'm not sure why the boat decided to roll over all of a sudden . . . but it made short work of something that I thought would take a few days

I'll have some time next weekend to work on splitting the boat halves. . probably gotta get a tarp soon

 

[alldodge]

Just thinking out loud but there was some great difficulty trying to get the boat at bottoms up. The issue was (as I remember, CRS issues) the keel area was much heaver then the top. So when were trying to roll it back tops up, well all try lifting power used to get it up, needed to be used to ease it down.

Looks like its coming along nicely, hope the top comes off easy

 

[tpenfield]

Just thinking out loud but there was some great difficulty trying to get the boat at bottoms up. The issue was (as I remember, CRS issues) the keel area was much heaver then the top. So when were trying to roll it back tops up, well all try lifting power used to get it up, needed to be used to ease it down.

Looks like its coming along nicely, hope the top comes off easy

AD, I think you are right. The ballast weight around the keel trunk is probably what caused it to rotate suddenly. At least I didn't spend a week or so getting the boat to roll over, as it was when flipping the boat upside down.

 

[tpenfield]

Quick update -

I am a member of the "O'Day Mariner Class Association" and have posted some questions about separating the deck and hull on their web site. There is a company fairly local to me that provides some parts and customer support of these boats, and the owner of that company worked at the O'Day factory back in the day and is generally regarded as a resource on repair and restoration of these boats.

so, I sent him an email about separating the hull and deck to get any advice or cautions before I 'head too far down the path'. I'll have to see what advice I get.

The boats are current built by Stuart Marine, who eventually bought the rights to the boat after O'Day closed up shop. They have some good factory photos on their web site, but I think there has been some re-engineering of the structure since O'Day made them.

 

[tpenfield]

Any time that I can use my wrecking saw is a good thing . . .

Today I separated the starboard side rail using the saw and it went much faster than removing the staples as I had done previously.


There was a little bit of CSM at the bow holding the boat halves together. The saw went right through it.


The boat is pretty well separated from bow to stern, but the cockpit seems to be hanging on tight around the keel trunk and maybe a few other spots.




I probably will have to invoke some creative cutting . . . maybe a 4 foot wrecking saw blade so that I can reach all the way along the keel trunk

 

[tpenfield]

Keel Trunk Update:

Well it looks like I am stuck . . . or at least the cockpit is to the keel trunk. I have not been able to make any headway separating the cockpit from the keel trunk. In reviewing the factory pictures from the Stuart Marine web site, it looks like there as an adhesive that is put on top of the keel trunk before the deck/cockpit assembly is lowered in place. So, the cockpit is probably well bonded to the top of the keel trunk along 3-4 feet of length where they mate.

It is doubtful that I can make a blind cut to separate these two pieces.

so, I think my best bet is to cut the top of the keel trunk at the cockpit as shown by the red dashed line below.


This should separate the boat halves or at least give me a good cutting angle to cut through any remaining adhesive. Most of the cockpit floor structure would be preserved with this sort of a cut, and re-glassing would be fairly easy as well.