Better to apply bottom paint in Fall or Spring

viper1216

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I am going to be adding anti-fouling paint to my boat for next year. This will be the first application of it as it still has the factory paint. I was thinking I would do it in the fall (I live in New England) when the weather was nice. Is there any draw back to doing it in the fall vs in the Spring before it goes in the water?

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Dave
 

Scott Danforth

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in the spring you may be pressed for time. in the fall, if its nice out, have at it.
 

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What type of paint are you using? Soft ablative paints are typically applied a day or two before launching. Maybe the formulations have changed over the years, but tradionally you didn't want It to 'fully dry' as it would then not be as effective ( not so 'ablative' any more.)
 

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What type of paint are you using? Soft ablative paints are typically applied a day or two before launching. Maybe the formulations have changed over the years, but tradionally you didn't want It to 'fully dry' as it would then not be as effective ( not so 'ablative' any more.)


Damn, I was leaning towards ablative. Wasn't aware of that. I'm still trying to decide on which type...this might help with that.
 

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I see it has been in the 90's this week in Boston. You have time to do it now and get her in the water asap as this year as it might drop to the 80's in October.
 

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I'm only putting the bottom paint on next year as I will be getting a slip. This year it's trailered so not worried about it. I do plan on heading out a few more times though!!
 

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This from West Marine... A word about timing

As you choose your paint and schedule your haulout, consider how much drying time you should allow between coats and how long the new paint can be left out of the water. Drying time between coats can vary from ten minutes for Teflon-based VC-17m to a 16-hour (or overnight) minimum for Trilux 33. For proper planning it is important to check the manufacturer?s recommendation in advance, both for the drying time and for the recommended number of coats. For example, West Marine?s most popular modified epoxy paint, BottomShield, has a drying time of four to six hours, and a maximum of 60 days before relaunch. Copolymer ablative paints have minimum overcoating times, and no maximum out-of-water time. Copolymers are a good choice for trailerable boats that need antifouling protection while in the water, but also spend time on the hard. Recoat following manufacturer recommendations regarding overcoating times, which can vary based on temperature.

Viper, I'm glad you asked the question, as I never knew that a copolymer like the Seahawk Monterey paint I use, could be applied in the Fall. Don't know if I will, but now I know it's an option. When you say your boat still has the 'factory paint', is it really barrier coated, or do you have the bare fiberglass finish on the bottom. If the latter, you have prep work to do, i.e., prepping the hull and applying barrier coats before the antifouling.

Ned L, the formulations have changed. When I was a kid, my Dad and other boaters would always launch with the second coat still 'wet' (within 24 hours of applying it). AF was designed then to cure in the water. It also leached a lot of copper.

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Hard paints are typically for full displacement boats (trawlers and sailboats). Ablative paints are for planing boats. You could use a hard paint on planing boat. An ablative on a full displacement boat is limited in its effectiveness. Just something to consider. MOST paints have a max dry time that will prevent you from painting in the fall.
 

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So I just found this statement on Interlux's website " With Micron? Technology products there is no maximum launch time so they can be applied in the fall and launched when you are ready. If you happen to have some oxidation on the surface in the spring, all you need to do before launch is to rinse the hull with fresh water and/or scrub with a Scotch Brite™ pad, as this will open up the surface again. Micron Technology antifouling paints provide top of the line antifouling protection, can be hauled and relaunched without repainting, and they wear down with use so they do not build up, hence they keep the surface smooth."

So that answers my question. I was leaning towards Interlux Micron CF, so this looks to seal the deal. As far as what I meant by "factory paint". this boat has been only used in ponds up until now. There has been no antifouling paint ever applied. It still has the original finish that Maxum put on it when she left the factory. I was planning on putting a few coats of Interlux InterProtect 2000E on as well.
 

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JoLin. --- Thank you! Yea,... Some of my knowledge could use a bit of updating. :D
 

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Ned, I'm an old school guy, too. Every time I research a subject I knew by heart 30 or 40 years ago, I find out that EVERYTHING has changed since the last time I looked. :facepalm:
 

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Haha,... Maybe that's one reason I ended up with a 59 year of boat with a pair of 59 year d engines in her. Nothing you can't fix with a screwdriver and adjustable wrench, and no computer controls. Lol :D
 

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Haha,... Maybe that's one reason I ended up with a 59 year of boat with a pair of 59 year d engines in her. Nothing you can't fix with a screwdriver and adjustable wrench, and no computer controls. Lol :D
Don't forget the hammer
 

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If you look on Interlux website, you'll find that previously unpainted boats require a cleaner and a sealer before painting with bottom paint.
 

viper1216

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If you look on Interlux website, you'll find that previously unpainted boats require a cleaner and a sealer before painting with bottom paint.


Thanks! I saw the cleaner and will be grabbing and was already planning on using the Interlux InterProtect 2000E as primer.
 
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