tubes in tire

naturelover

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May also try some tire soap, and warming up the tire.

Grease the bead first too. Helps it slide over the lip, and also seal the bead. Fixed many a leaking tire beads that way.

Pack the tire soap between the rim and the tire and add air. The soap will hold air long enough for the tire to raise against the bead, then as it airs up, it will push the tire soap out. Ratchet strap might help with this too.

Oh, and the starting fluid trick works also, but use at own risk.

Know of a guy that blew a mud truck tire over the rim by doing that. Knocked the horseshoe off the wall on the opposite side of the garage. Was lucky the tire held.
 

bigdee

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May also try some tire soap, and warming up the tire.

Grease the bead first too. Helps it slide over the lip, and also seal the bead. Fixed many a leaking tire beads that way.

Pack the tire soap between the rim and the tire and add air. The soap will hold air long enough for the tire to raise against the bead, then as it airs up, it will push the tire soap out. Ratchet strap might help with this too.

Oh, and the starting fluid trick works also, but use at own risk.

Know of a guy that blew a mud truck tire over the rim by doing that. Knocked the horseshoe off the wall on the opposite side of the garage. Was lucky the tire held.

Thanks naturelover. Ha,ha tire soap all over the face.....been there. I have tried all of those things to no avail. I have changed many tubeless tires but this one has got me. I will go with the tube for now. BTW I did not have this problem when I put on a used 4.80 tire. I thought of using the tube just to get it on the rim then sitting the tire in the hot NC sun for a couple of days,then remounting it. The starter fluid trick is a no/no because I don't think the unburned solvent left in the tire is good for the rubber.
 

GA_Boater

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I just mounted two 570-8 LRC donuts. Those babies are stiff and one had the beads touching almost all the way around. I don't know how these distributors store tires, but it's the first and last time I'll be buying tires online. But I digress.

Managed to get the tires mounted and one aired up using a ratchet strap to spread the beads. Piece of cake. The other one with the touching beads was a bear. Used the strap, more lube, bounced the tire and rim while airing and it just wouldn't take air.

Finally in desperation, I resorted to my favorite tool - The BFH. Laid the wheel flat and tapped with increasing vigor a few times around the low spot of the sidewall with my "leetle friend", suddenly the sidewall moved a bit and the tire started taking air. The sidewall snapping back after the hits must have closed the invisible bead gap.

Give the BFH a shot or two, bigdee. Don't give up! Victory is in sight! You shall prevail! :smile:
 

naturelover

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Thanks naturelover. Ha,ha tire soap all over the face.....been there. I have tried all of those things to no avail. I have changed many tubeless tires but this one has got me. I will go with the tube for now. BTW I did not have this problem when I put on a used 4.80 tire. I thought of using the tube just to get it on the rim then sitting the tire in the hot NC sun for a couple of days,then remounting it. The starter fluid trick is a no/no because I don't think the unburned solvent left in the tire is good for the rubber.

Yea, usually drain and refill the tires a couple time to try and get most of it out.

Amazon sells an open lock on air chuck that might help too. It allows you to air the tire without the valve stem in to get more air into it.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017S...k+on+air+chuck

May also cut some 2x4's to length and fit them in between the beads to try and stretch out the sidewalls while letting it sit in the sun.
 
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