Standard circuit breaker amps

grtomboy

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Can anybody give me a ballpark on the standard amperage for my circuit breaker panel? I am full aware that guesswork is downright dangerous and I'll be able to confirm before I do the actual replacement, but I have an opportunity to scoop up a handful of push-button circuit breakers which I believe my boat is in need of... of not now, eventually... Hurricane 1999 GS201 w/ 2004 Johnson 150 2 stroke. Dock lights, nav lights, freshwater pump, livewell pump, bilge, the usual. At $3 a pop (no pun intended) I can affprd to snatch up this good deal but my schematics don't show the amp draw. Just a generic ballpark average would keep me entertained on this project until I can actually get under the helm.. humor my brain for the time being...
 

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are these push-button circuit breakers IP 65 or IP66 rated at a minimum?
 

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Push button, yes. I am not familiar with the terminology of IP 65/66? There is absolutely nothing legible on the breaker body itself.
 

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If you are asking about the actual amperage sizes, get some 5, 10, 15, and 20 amp versions and you will probably cover most everything you could install in your boat with the exception of the main line from the battery and a trolling motor circuit. Those will take a higher amperage. 5 and 10 amp circuit breakers will cover 90% of every circuit in most boats. A Stereo circuit could require more if you go for a high power amp and such. Otherwise 5 and 10 amp breakers will cover most everything else.
 

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IP ratings have to do with its sealing and ability to not fail when getting wet. IP65 is the minimum rating you want for anything (light rain proof), IP68S or IP69K are preferred

many of the push-button type circuit breakers are not sealed (not intended for use on a boat) they are usually intended for being mounted in a sealed electrical enclosure.
 

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Hmm. Thank you for that. Good to know.
This is factory install inside a helm console unit but yes, it does get wet in there... These are listed as "CLB Series" and manufactured by Blue Sea systems, for marine applications. Was just hoping to order some to have them on hand for my next day off. Restless to get back to my dry dock labor of love duties LOL
 

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If you are asking about the actual amperage sizes, get some 5, 10, 15, and 20 amp versions and you will probably cover most everything you could install in your boat with the exception of the main line from the battery and a trolling motor circuit. Those will take a higher amperage. 5 and 10 amp circuit breakers will cover 90% of every circuit in most boats. A Stereo circuit could require more if you go for a high power amp and such. Otherwise 5 and 10 amp breakers will cover most everything else.

I know they say don't ever be tempted to install a higher breaker than necessary, since it won't trip soon enough, but could I go a notch higher in case I do upgrade my bilge pump or stereo?
 

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I know they say don't ever be tempted to install a higher breaker than necessary, since it won't trip soon enough, but could I go a notch higher in case I do upgrade my bilge pump or stereo?

Let me try to clear one thing up. IF you install a bilge pump and it states it uses 3 amps of current at 12 volts. You don't use a 3 amp circuit breaker and here is why. Any electric motor has what is called "in-rush current" at start up. And what that means is when you initially turn it on, it take more then 3 amps to get the motor turning .If you used a fuse or circuit breaker that just fits that run current requirement, it could pop or blow the fuse. Then you would think there is something wrong with the pump.

In a 3 amp circuit, I would use a 5 amp circuit breaker or fuse for that reason. The wire running to that pump usually handle a lot more the 5 amps. So if the motor did short out, it would draw a ton more current then 5 amps and the fuse or breaker would do its job without fail.

I do that exact same idea with each and every circuit I wire in. It allows a little extra current before popping or blowing a fuse. It still protects the wires, boat and everything else if a true short happens. Of course if a circuit calls for 6 amps, you don't use a 20 amp protection setup. I would use an 8 or 10 amp in a 6 amp circuit. Usually circuit breakers come in 5, 10, 15, 20 and so forth sizes. Yes you can buy them in every amp size, but I use increments of 5 with them, most of the time. Just me! But I also use the proper size (gauge) wires as well. Never use wire that just covers the amperage needed. Always use the next gauge heavier and you will never have any problems. JMHO
 

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Yes, I'm ok with rounding up on my fuses. How often do these breakers go bad? I just ordered a 20 amp push-button for the main in hopes that it will bring my dash gauges back up... they might bounce and spike on a good day if anything.... but my courtesy lights work, my accessory works, my bilge works... nothing that I'm talking this through, it doesn't sound like my master breaker at all. Hunt for relays next? Which console circuits run together on a relay?
 
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