Electric Boat Winch

LuvBoating

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Another question: Since we aren't going to use our vehicle battery, what kind of battery should we purchase to use with this winch. The battery will be in a holder bolted onto to the trailer, with a "holder strap" over the battery. After taking the boat off of the trailer, will take the battery off of the trailer and put battery in the back of our vehicle. When retrieving the boat, will put the battery back in the holder and secure with strap. After retrieving the boat, will disconnect the winch from the battery and put battery back on vehicle and take battery home to recharge. We think this is the best for us. If we end up not liking this, will then have the connection to the vehicle battery done.

But, question is, what kind of battery? Marine Starting or Marine Deep Cycle? I would think a Deep Cycle, so we wouldn't have to keep recharging it all the time.
 

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Powerwinch brand makes a QD setup that should be adaptable to any electric winch. Its 2 steel studs and a bolt with a wing nut. One quick twist with 2 fingers, pull it back and the winch comes off the trailer slick as a whistle, and even easier than taking the battery out of the box since it weighs less. The winch can be removed for secure storage whether the boat is on the trailer or not, as long as the boat is not being trailed down the highway.

They also make a custom vinyl coated waterproof canvas cover that completely secures the winch from the elements. A little ingenuity and a cover can even be made from WalMart bags. As I said before, in addition to the need to keep the electric motor dry, the nylon in the cable is the real Achilles heal.

Starting batteries are for engines, deep cycle for accessories. A dual purpose works for either. Usage is not the whole answer. Self discharge comes into the equation as well. Battery voltage answers the question. If it falls below 75% it needs charging BEFORE the boat trip, not after.
 

LuvBoating

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Powerwinch brand makes a QD setup that should be adaptable to any electric winch. Its 2 steel studs and a bolt with a wing nut. One quick twist with 2 fingers, pull it back and the winch comes off the trailer slick as a whistle, and even easier than taking the battery out of the box since it weighs less. The winch can be removed for secure storage whether the boat is on the trailer or not, as long as the boat is not being trailed down the highway.

They also make a custom vinyl coated waterproof canvas cover that completely secures the winch from the elements. A little ingenuity and a cover can even be made from WalMart bags. As I said before, in addition to the need to keep the electric motor dry, the nylon in the cable is the real Achilles heal.

Starting batteries are for engines, deep cycle for accessories. A dual purpose works for either. Usage is not the whole answer. Self discharge comes into the equation as well. Battery voltage answers the question. If it falls below 75% it needs charging BEFORE the boat trip, not after.

Does QD mean “quick disconnect”? Where do I find this Powerwinch QD? Looked for it, but no luck.

So, a Dual Purpose Battery would be the kind to get?
 

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Right on their web site. P7700000JJ Quick mount kit. $22.10, $7.00 freight. Ebay has them as well. Might require a little mechanical ability to install.

Dual purpose is OK. Personally I would go with a DC because it will last longer. I don't mind paying extra.
 

LuvBoating

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Tested the winch out yesterday. Took off attaching rings (don't remember actual name) to both positive and negative wires and attached small battery clamps. Connected to truck battery and winch and lights worked. Matched up hand remote with winch. Will now put everything back into box it came in and store until we leave. Will either have Movers take it, with other stuff or will take it with us in vehicle.

Will go to Harbor Freight and buy Torque Wrench, so, when I install the winch at Boat/RV Storage, can torque down bolts. In meantime, will keep old winch on trailer until it gets to wherever we move. When we put new winch on, will keep old (manual) winch in vehicle, just in case.

Our main concern, "does it work" and it does!
 

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The boat, and us, are now living back in Colorado, but NOCO (northern Colorado now). We bought a NAPA size 24 Dual Purpose Battery for the electric winch. Also, bought a JEGS Steel Hold Down Kit (24 size) to install on the trailer frame close to the electric winch. Will be drilling at least two holes for bolts/nuts and, if enough room, four holes to make the steel holding plate as secure as possible. Place the battery in that and hold down with two hold-down arms. When winch/battery are not used, will cover and use a heavy-duty bicycle/motorcycle cable w/lock wrapped around each for security.

I may install the winch myself, but could also have someone else install it.

Any thoughts?
 

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Installing a winch and battery box is no more difficult than changing a tire. But then again, I know people that call AAA to change a tire. In fact, I know a guy that actually takes his boat in to a detail shop to have it waxed for him.

Bottom line is that anybody can do anything if they try. OTOH, some people don't have enough confidence to try. If you don't have the time or confidence, but you have plenty of money, hire somebody. Personally, I won't let anybody touch my boat because I've had too many cases of having to fix somebody else's repair.

Now, if your question is regarding the job itself. I have issues. My electric winch setup was fitted with QD bolts. After launching the winch went in the trunk of the car. The wiring went thru the car to the car's battery. Two reasons - one for security and the other just to not have to own and maintain 2 batteries.

Winches and batteries are prone to sprout wings and fly. Bicycle cables offer zero security.
 

LuvBoating

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Installing a winch and battery box is no more difficult than changing a tire. But then again, I know people that call AAA to change a tire. In fact, I know a guy that actually takes his boat in to a detail shop to have it waxed for him.

Bottom line is that anybody can do anything if they try. OTOH, some people don't have enough confidence to try. If you don't have the time or confidence, but you have plenty of money, hire somebody. Personally, I won't let anybody touch my boat because I've had too many cases of having to fix somebody else's repair.

Now, if your question is regarding the job itself. I have issues. My electric winch setup was fitted with QD bolts. After launching the winch went in the trunk of the car. The wiring went thru the car to the car's battery. Two reasons - one for security and the other just to not have to own and maintain 2 batteries.

Winches and batteries are prone to sprout wings and fly. Bicycle cables offer zero security.

Well, for a non-mechanic type guy of 70 years old, it's not that easy. Actually, I'm much more of the "computer" type than "mechanic" type...….especially at this age. Years ago I was somewhat different.

We have AAA and will call them to change a tire, battery problem or tow. That's what we pay a yearly cost for. We also pay an added on cost for any boat trailer problem while taking the boat to a lake.

Actually, I wasn't sure about changing the right brake/turn signal light, but did it. Wasn't easy, but I did it. The trailer shop, that we took the trailer to for electrical check/repair, did change the left one, but not the right one. Left one is an LED lights type, but the right one was a regular light type. So, we bought the right LED one online and it fit perfectly.

Drilling the holes for the plate the battery sits on isn't easy and really tired me out. That job isn't done yet. Still trying to make the decision whether I will TRY and take off the old manual winch and install the new one OR let a trailer mechanic do it and pay for that.

We already have a dual-battery set up with two Starting Batteries on our boat. I take them out of the boat at the end of the season and keep them charged up, during the winter months, with a very good Battery Maintainer. The security cables and locks we have, are pretty heavy duty, however we'd take the battery off of the trailer and take home, when boat is in it's storage spot in-between times going to local lake. I'd check the power of that battery at home and recharge if necessary. I don't have any problem doing that. And, we put a yellow sticky note on the dash of our Durango reminding us to take the battery with us to storage when hitting the lake. Anyway, having securing cables wrapped around an item and locked is better than having no security at all!

We bought this winch because my wife just doesn't have the hand/arm power to use a manual winch anymore. I simply don't want her to hurt herself using the manual winch.
 

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We bought this winch because my wife just doesn't have the hand/arm power to use a manual winch anymore. I simply don't want her to hurt herself using the manual winch.
If I told my wife to winch, she'd tell me where I could put said winch...and ours is electric....lol

In reality, too many things to go wrong while operating an winch to put my wife at risk. A snapped winch strap/cable can have deadly consequences. Saw a guy take out the back window of his Suburban a few years ago when his strap let go. Missed his head by inches

FYI: Age is just a number unless physically impaired. I told my kids to take me out back and shoot me if I start using my age as an excuse not to doing something.
 

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We had the electric winched installed. A trailer wiring company did it for us for $95. Very glad we had it done. Some things I simply don't trust myself doing.
 
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