J24-Tohatsu 5 HP Raid.-

Sea Rider

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Paul,

Will be making a 100-120 Km water raid on a J24 sailboat powered with a 2 strokes Tohatsu 5 HP motor. Being a 1 ton sailboat was wondering if throttling to say max 3/4 throttle at whatever rpm runs will be OK as not to stress the little horse. The motor has been prop maxed with a 3 blade 7 pitch prop to rev higher and push better along a tach installed.

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Should be fine. 3/4 throttle will save some fuel vs wot for hours. Or sail...
 

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The motor just works against / moves water.---The motor does not care how big the boat is !
 

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The motor just works against / moves water.---The motor does not care how big the boat is !

These motors are used on J24s all the time. Since the sailboat is a displacement hull, don't expect to exceed about 5 knots. Therefore, it is a bit easier on everything at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle instead of WOT.
 

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The motor exerts the same amount of " force " on the boat.---A 12' aluminum might move at 10 knots and a 24" sailboat at 5 knots with the same motor.----Used to sail on a 25" CAPRI with 5 HP Honda.
 

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The motor exerts the same amount of " force " on the boat.---A 12' aluminum might move at 10 knots and a 24" sailboat at 5 knots with the same motor.----Used to sail on a 25" CAPRI with 5 HP Honda.

My condolences that you crewed on a Capri. As I said, it is a bit easier on everything at 1/2 to 3/4 throttle instead of WOT.
 

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Motor turns propeller and develops thrust.-----Motor does not know if that thrust is pushing on a sailboat / 12' aluminum or even a planning a kitchen table !!
 

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Motor turns propeller and develops thrust.-----Motor does not know if that thrust is pushing on a sailboat / 12' aluminum or even a planning a kitchen table !!

No, but it does know if it's at 1/2 or WOT. Luis' question was on whether it is better on the motor at 3/4. It is. WOT stresses everything -- even the motor mount.
 

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A Yam 8 HP long shaft motor was going to be used as a kicker to power the J-24 sailboat. Owner now knows that using a motor on salt water and sporadically being flushed with fresh water after its use will collect salt water crusts, deposits on all cooling water passages and eventually will overheat any motor when more power is in demand specially pushing a heavy sailboat.

Being my 5 HP motor a "short shaft" one lowered the wooden motor mount fully downward, locked tilt pin to run at 90 deg , that's perpendicular to the hull. Amazing results data :

Weight : J-24 sailboat, 3 heavy guys, many cold ones and lots of extra booth : 1.5 Tons 1.500 kilos

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-2 strokes Tohatsu SS 5HP motor.

-Propped max with a 7 pitch prop from current 8 pitch factory delivered. Motor has gained + 1K wot revs with a light load.

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-Flat calm sea cond with light breeze appearing now and then.

-Motor revving happily at 4400-4500 rpm at just 1/3 throttle (slight passing starting throttle marks)

Variable speed : 5 to 6.5 knots/hour

Assumed that being a short shaft will over rev sometimes, but didn't as all 3 were sitting way aft of sailboat.

Although was a nice slow and very long outing, prefer my 450 Rib powered by a 18 HP motor which is a zillion times better and faster. To each his own way of having boating fun LOL!!

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Lesson learned, it's useless going full wot with a small kicker on "flat calm water cond" to gain + 0.5 knot at the most. The principal that states that the prop must be revving fully under the hull for top blade thrust was not taken into the least consideration, the prop was revving way less than 3/4 hull depth and plenty of throttle still to go.

Bottom line : If in need to use a small HP kicker to push whatever floats, it's heavy and big, need to fo for a prop maximization towards a less pitch prop or will end over stressing and lugging the motor badly...

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Yes. There is also a high thrust prop available for those. While not as cool as the HT prop for the 8/9.8, the big blades are an improvement with heavy loads.
 

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Nothing wrong with the Capri 25 that I sailed on.----Slowest rated boat in a mixed fleet ( boats up to 38' ) and I was first over the finish line single handed , when owner could not make it..-----Motors work against water and do not " know " what size boat they are pushing.
 

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Motors work against water and do not " know " what size boat they are pushing.

The owner is the only one that knows, in real boating world if using a small portable without a installed induction tach is the fastest way towards disaster. See many small portables being run at wot pushing large boats and owner not knowing that he's lugging his motor badly thinking erroneously that if counting with a prop will do its homework right.

Happy Boating
 
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