Upper Water Tube Grommet Replacement 6hp 1985.

[cprodave]

I don't have a Manual for this model. I can tell that the Exhaust Gasket 330564 and the Water Tube Grommet were assembled "dry" (i.e. no Sealant) in this motor. However, dry might not be correct.

Does anybody have a Manual that can tell me whether Sealant is required? Also, if Sealant is required wouldn't Sealant be listed/shown in the Exploded View diagram?

Thanks for any help.

 

[Vic.S]

I don't have a Manual for this model. I can tell that the Exhaust Gasket 330564 and the Water Tube Grommet were assembled "dry" (i.e. no Sealant) in this motor. However, dry might not be correct.

Does anybody have a Manual that can tell me whether Sealant is required? Also, if Sealant is required wouldn't Sealant be listed/shown in the Exploded View diagram?

Thanks for any help.

Mercury and Mariner parts lists include all the sealants and lubricants used during assembly and indicate where they are used. Johnson/ Evinrude parts lists do not
You engine is however covered by the manual on the Boatinfo website at

Boatinfo - 1971-1989 Evinrude Service manual

www.boatinfo.no

You should be able to find the information in there if any sealants are necessary .
You will also discover why the model specific OEM manuals are recommended

 

[ct1762@gmail.com]

it all depends on how the adapter flows water. some need sealer, some don't. if it didn't have any, it probably goes on dry, but im not at my shop otherwise i'd have a look in the manual. i'd stop using the aftermarket manuals myself. i did use one to prop up a workbench, and its still there.

 

[cprodave]

Vic, thanks for clarifying and thanks for the link. Where is the best source for Model specific OEM manuals? I only ever had an aftermarket manual and i found it to be of little use so i resold it.
CT1762, I like your idea on how to use an aftermarket manual --it would have been less work than it took me to resell mine!

 

[Vic.S]

Vic, thanks for clarifying and thanks for the link. Where is the best source for Model specific OEM manuals? I only ever had an aftermarket manual and i found it to be of little use so i resold it.
CT1762, I like your idea on how to use an aftermarket manual --it would have been less work than it took me to resell mine!

Ken Cook at https://www.outboardbooks.com/

 

[cprodave]

Ken Cook at https://www.outboardbooks.com/

Vic, wow! thanks! Ken Cook's seems to be a very complete source. Thanks again.

 

[cprodave]

I am finally getting back to working on this E6RCOB water leakage problem. Another project motor (BE8BACDE--similar to E8RCDE) got me sidetracked. I noticed on this other BE8BACDE that there seems to be a sealant on the Exhaust Gasket #91 p/n 330564. I suspect that the problem on this E6RCOB is that previous owner assembled without sealant.
I looked at boatsinfo.no and can "begin to see" the Service Manual for 1971-1989 Evinrude. However, there is a problem with Adobe Flash Player 9 which has gone EndOfLife and won't run. Has anybody found a workaround to this software problem?

Alternatively I am hesitant to spend $75 (plus Shipping/Handling, i.e. my wife will be pizzed) ) for the hardcopy 1971-1989 Evinrude Service Manual at KenCook. So I am begging anyone to look in their Service Manual and advise: 1) is a Sealant required on the Exhaust Gasket and 2) if required then what specific Sealant should be used?

Thanks for any help. Happy New Year!

 

[CatTwentyTwo]

I may not be looking in the right place but I don't even see an exhaust gasket mentioned in my 84 OEM manual. All it mentions is putting a new o-ring on the exhaust housing cover and installing 2 screws.

 

[CatTwentyTwo]

I may not be looking in the right place but I don't even see an exhaust gasket mentioned in my 84 OEM manual. All it mentions is putting a new o-ring on the exhaust housing cover and installing 2 screws.

I think I found the gasket, the manual doesn't mention using any sealant.

 

[Crosbyman]

Adobe Flash Player 9 which has gone EndOfLife and won't run.

mine works fine
go to the top right ...
select PARAMATER wheel

Left column select COOKIES & SITE AUTHOIRISATION
select ADOBE
activate the authorization by sliding the button to ON and every time the system will ask your permission to turn on ADOBE

...work s for me

 

[cprodave]

Adobe Flash Player 9 which has gone EndOfLife and won't run.

mine works fine
go to the top right ...
select PARAMATER wheel

Left column select COOKIES & SITE AUTHOIRISATION
select ADOBE
activate the authorization by sliding the button to ON and every time the system will ask your permission to turn on ADOBE

...work s for me

Update: another forum member helped me out with the Service Manual and I can see that only the 4hp motors in this vintage used OMC Gasket Sealing Compound between the Powerhead and the Exhaust Housing. The 4hp Deluxe and larger motors are assembled "dry" between Powerhead and Exhaust Housing.

Crosbyman, thanks for the Workaround instructions on FlashPlayer9. When you say " go to the top right" are you in a FlashPlayer9 window, or a browser window, etc? These workaround instructions would be very helpful for the future...

 

[Crosbyman]

the three small dots (using EDGE) are at the top right just below the X
used for closing an open window window.
clicking the ... will open up a long list of subjects and at the bottom you will finf a star wheel logo

click the star wheel to access parameters

in the parameter list select COOKIES AND SITE AUTHORIZATIONS

under COOKIES AND SITE AUTHORIZATIONS

select ADOBE and flip the switch to force a request to open ADOBE every time you access this Adobe format

 

[cprodave]

Crosbyman, thanks for clarifying that these steps are for MS Edge Browser (which is loaded on my laptop although I have never used Edge previously). I was able to follow the Steps in an Edge window to change Permissions for Adobe. Unfortunately it appears that I didn't already have FlashPlayer 9 installed, and Adobe is not providing any additional downloads of FlashPlayer. So unless I can find a 3rd Party to download Flashplayer from, this isn't going to work for me, correct?

Thanks anyhow, maybe these steps will help some other Forum members.

 

[Sea Rider]

Have you tried running the motor on muffs, barrel with cowl removed to check where excactly is the water coming out from ? seems the base gasket where the lower crankcase sits on is shot, anyway will need to install a new one if plan removing the powerhead off its base.​

Happy Boating

 

[ct1762@gmail.com]

so the older manuals (i'm thinking prior to say 1981) had a sneaky habit of mentioning what gaskets need sealant in one tiny paragraph in the beginning of the powerhead rebuild chapter. and even then , its sort of ambiguous as it goes into which types of surfaces need it, "unless specified" or something like that. later on in the mid 80's or so, the manuals got so much better, having a "special torque" section if needed at the beginning of each chapter, tools needed, clearer instructions, more detailed pictures etc. i learned last summer to use the latest manual for any given engine family.

 

[Crosbyman]

.......So unless I can find a 3rd Party to download Flashplayer from, this isn't going to work for me, correct?

i guess so. :-(

 

[Sea Rider]

Don't lose precious boating fun time trying to open the Service Manual to check info. The Gasket from the Exhaust Housing part No 0330564 is shot and looses water on to the pan. Remove the powerhead from its base and install a new one, apply sealent if mandatory. If not, grease both side with thick grease and toqrque the powerhead's lower bolts hand tight, re torque after 1 hour use till tight again. Such gasket only costs $16.00 bucks.

Happy Boating
​

 

[ct1762@gmail.com]

id use sealant.

 

[cprodave]

Searider, yes I ran it in a barrel (this motor does not accept muffs) with the Cowl off and it appeared to be leaking around/behind the Gear Shift Lever.

CT1762, well that IS sneaky to not mention Sealants in the step-by-step sections of the Service Manuals.

Searider, early this morning I already installed the #76 ExhaustTube to the Powerhead and then the Powerhead with Exhaust Tube to the #1 Midsection Housing. I did not apply any thick grease or Sealant to any surfaces of the gasket or the surfaces that the gasket mates to.

CT1762: It wouldn't be a major work effort to disassemble and then reassemble with a Sealant, and might save me some work in the long run. Would Permatex #3 be OK for this Gasket? I have this on hand (bought it recently upon recommendation from Racerone to seal exposed fasteners from corrosion and intermetallic formation). The only hesitation I have with Sealant is that if I have to disassemble again, sealant creates work/pain. And there is some risk that by not replacing #33 O-Ring Cover to Exhaust Housing (p/n 328007 this protects the inner portion of the Gear Shift) this O-ring could be the source of the leak. So I might be disassembling again.

 

[cprodave]

On second thought, there is no way the #33 O-ring (protecting the inner portion of the Gear Shift) could cause this leak because this area is OUTSIDE of the water circulation system, also outside of the Exhaust system.

So I will definitely disassemble and then use some Sealer. The only question remaining is what type of Sealer I should use. Ideally Sealer would be off-the-shelf from Autozone or NAPA , better yet can I use Permatex #3 that I already have on-hand?