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rice1952

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I have a heavy 25 foot tri-tune with a 200 hp mercury Optimax. Currently have a 3 blade aluminum 15 1/4 x 15 prop. At wot with just my fat ass and about 12 gallons of gas I’m getting 5100 rpm and 31 mph. I had the tunes cleaned yesterday and that increased it from 30 to 31mph. Any suggestions or does this sound about right?
 

dingbat

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I have a heavy 25 foot tri-tune with a 200 hp mercury Optimax. Currently have a 3 blade aluminum 15 1/4 x 15 prop. At wot with just my fat ass and about 12 gallons of gas I’m getting 5100 rpm and 31 mph. I had the tunes cleaned yesterday and that increased it from 30 to 31mph. Any suggestions or does this sound about right?
Over propped….
WOT should be closer to 6,000 rpm
 

Scott Danforth

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on a pontoon, motor height (prop depth) is 100000% more important than trim angle in getting the performance right. if you are too deep, you bog the motor and plow with the motor. if you are too shallow, you ventilate

31mph is reasonable for a pontoon.
 

rice1952

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Over propped….
WOT should be closer to 6,000 rpm
Agree but what size/pitch
on a pontoon, motor height (prop depth) is 100000% more important than trim angle in getting the performance right. if you are too deep, you bog the motor and plow with the motor. if you are too shallow, you ventilate

31mph is reasonable for a pontoon.
Thanks. I believe it is mounted too low.
 

Scott Danforth

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get the motor height right, then adjust pitch. because a pontoon loading affects the running so greatly, they should have hydraulic jack plates on them from the factory
 

jlh3rd

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If you want advice from a pontoon owner who has re-powered and operated a pontoon since 2017, here's this: FYI, FWIW:
It's impossible to tell if a motor is too high or low just based on what you posted. What you posted tells me you are over-propped and lugging your motor.
I do not prop my pontoon for speed, I prop for the higher recommended manufacturer's operating rpm speed....but it's your boat, your money.
A picture of the ventilation plate in reference to the middle toon would help. It should be even with the bottom of the toon. A picture of that plate while running would help. It should be right at or touching the water...If it's below the surface while at speed,then it might benefit to raise it (maybe) ...All of this is a starting reference point. Adjustments are based on mainly if ventilating or not. Pontoons are more susceptible to ventilation due to design. Ideally, you want the motor as high as can be without ventilating in turns or when trimming up at speed. That's the test. I had to lower my new motor to the last position to eliminate that problem. The 11/2" made a big difference, thankfully.....
So, yep, make sure the height is correct as best you can.
All that being said, as stated before by dingbat, you are overpropped. Going to a 3-15 1/4x13 would be a good starting point. Understand that changing diameter, #of blades, different manufacturer, different metal, compared to the original will also affect rpm outcome.
propping can be expensive....
and read this.
 

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jlh3rd

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as a weak comparison. I have a 24', twin 25" dia. toons, 115hp pontoon that gets 26+/- mph @ WOT, 58-6000 rpm based on early cool spring day. Yep, colder air and water increases performance.
These are props that I've run/tried. All give the same #'s.
 

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