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[matt167]

Yeah the console shifted trucks have an electronic shifter which is very similar to what Mopar has used in the recent past. Buick and Cadillac also use the same style shifter…. You can still buy a column shifted Chevy truck though. Now most of the GM cars have a stalk mounted shifter similar to what Mercedes has used

 

[FLATHEAD]

My Silverado is a 2500 has no button to push for gear selection. Mine is column shift Just grab it and put it in gear and go.

 

[alldodge]

So far as I've seen all the 2500 and up still have a cable to shift the trans

 

[Pmt133]

Yeah our 22 2500 is normal column shift. The half ton has this janky thing. It works... just wasn't totally intuitive first time I got in.
Shifter

 

[bruceb58]

So far as I've seen all the 2500 and up still have a cable to shift the trans

On my 2024 GMC Denali 2500 with the 10 speed 10L1000 transmission, the column shifter is just an electric switch that sends what gear you selected to the transmission control module. There is no mechanical cable. I would much prefer something other than a column shifter since the shifter arm blocks the 13" LCD screen when you are in drive.

 

[alldodge]

So far as I've seen all the 2500 and up still have a cable to shift the trans

On my 2024 GMC Denali 2500 with the 10 speed 10L1000 transmission, supposedly, the column shifter is just an electric switch that sends what gear you selected to the transmission control module. There is no mechanical cable. I would much prefer something other than a column shifter since the shifter arm blocks the 13" LCD screen when you are in drive.

Maybe I should have said the cable on my Rams is used to engage/disengage the parking lock in tranny and F/N/R position. It uses switches to limit max up shift gear while driving

 

[bruceb58]

Maybe I should have said the cable on my Rams is used to engage/disengage the parking lock in tranny and F/N/R position. It uses switches to limit max up shift gear while driving

Yeah...my understanding is that the RAM is just like my GMC. All shifting is shift by wire. There shouldn't be any cables at all.

Personally, I would much prefer push buttons to shift the transmission or a small stalk on the right side of the steering wheel like my Rivian uses.

 

[FLATHEAD]

All this talk of knob controllers. Our XT4 has two knobs on the console. I can control everything in the infotainment screen, radio, phone, media, etc including some vehicle setting with just those two. Super nice. Caddy has that figured out. Never have to touch the screen and barely have to take your off the road when using it. Way better than any car I have owned with all the new tech.

 

[alldodge]

Agree, wife's XT5 single knob is much better than others

 

[Scott Danforth]

That's one reason I like manual transmissions. Move stick into gear, let out clutch

 

[Pmt133]

Now I'm curious. Is it electronic shift or actuator moving a linkage external on the trans. I was under the sierra and vaguely recall there being some electronic device similar to a transfer case actuator. Not sure on the "allison".

 

[Scott Danforth]

Now I'm curious. Is it electronic shift or actuator moving a linkage external on the trans. I was under the sierra and vaguely recall there being some electronic device similar to a transfer case actuator. Not sure on the "allison".

Today's electronic transmissions have an ECM that controls a bunch of solenoids controlling the torque converter and all the clutches. Nothing is mechanical anymore

The T-case actuator is just a worm gear actuator that turns the selector.

 

[Pmt133]

Today's electronic transmissions have an ECM that controls a bunch of solenoids controlling the torque converter and all the clutches. Nothing is mechanical anymore

The T-case actuator is just a worm gear actuator that turns the selector.

Well thats what I mean. I have a slightly older 10 speed that has a shifting cable. Did GM just phone in something vs changing the trans or did they update the valve body for shift by wire and get rid of the cable. I don't know.

Edit to clarify: the cable is for P/R/N/D selection and nothing else.

 

[matt167]

The cable actually only locks and unlocks park. Some transmissions do that electronically but they always have the provision on the top of the transmission. We have a transmission unlock tool that actuates the lever. A zip tie can do the same thing. It’s only useful on the electronically actuated park models where there otherwise shifted fully electronically from the inside

Keep in mind when we push the GM vehicles in the shop, they have to come in on roller skates because they won’t come out of park or the parking brake locks itself, or both. Sometimes you can manually unlock park and then turn the parking brakes off with a scanner but other times it’s just quicker to use the skates.

 

[Pmt133]

Okay, that makes more sense. Thank you sir.

And this discussion had come up on the other forum I'm on a few weeks ago... if the E-brake is set and the battery goes dead and you can't jump it in your garage (get hood open)... you're sol. Which is also dumb. But what are the chances of all that happening unless you own a colorado that fails to update and kills the battery.

 

[alldodge]

Ram has a panel under the steering wheel near parking brake which can be removed to gain access to a lever which can be moved and disengage park

 

[cyclops222]

The car companies are creating dangerous cars .
BUT BUT BUT
Our illegitimate children and there mommies need jobs. Lots of jobs.

 

[bruceb58]

Okay, that makes more sense. Thank you sir.

And this discussion had come up on the other forum I'm on a few weeks ago... if the E-brake is set and the battery goes dead and you can't jump it in your garage (get hood open)... you're sol. Which is also dumb. But what are the chances of all that happening unless you own a colorado that fails to update and kills the battery.

Why would you be stupid enough to put on the e-brake in your garage would be my first question.

Second, why wouldn't you be able to open your hood in your garage?

 

[Pmt133]

Why would you be stupid enough to put on the e-brake in your garage would be my first question.

Second, why wouldn't you be able to open your hood in your garage?

On the twins for whatever reason it seems to always go on. Our new Denali every time it goes in park it engages too. I haven't found a setting for that yet. Now my garage, about the last vehicle that would fit in there was a 90s Tahoe.... and I don't know that you'd be able to get out once in there. I keep the corvette in there and that's tight to exit. Also all my HVAC ducting runs on the ceiling so it's quite low where that may impede hood opening enough to get to a battery mounted by the firewall.

Some people have shelving that the nose pulls under too... but to my point in that thread, its a f***ing pickup. It can stay parked outside. No reason to keep it in a garage. And that ruffled some feathers let me tell you.

It came up because apparently it happened to the poster. Which was even funnier.

 

[kd4pbs]

At least Mercedes Benz thought about the potential issue of a dead battery and an electronically shifted (via a servo motor actually moving things that a cable could just as well do) by having a smaller battery that has only one purpose: moving that servo out of park in case the main battery is dead. And that battery is charged by the charging system and is constantly tested and monitored. If it fails, the car will make it very well known to the operator.
At least some versions (perhaps all) of the 722.9 transmission does this. I don't know about other ones they make.
If you get stuck in park with this transmission, your pretty much deserved it or wanted to be.