1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

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1987 Merc 150hp V 6 SN 0B156087. Yesterday while out running at about 4200 RPM for 20 min. the warning buzzer went off with a steady sound. I shutdown opened the cover put my hand on each head, neater one seemed too hot. Started up and ran below 3800 for about 45 min. with no problem. Went back up to 4200 RPM and after 10 min the buzzer went off again. This time slowed down to 2500 RPM and the buzzer stopped. First question is the steady tone an overheat alarm. And second if it is an overheat alarm what is the most likely culprit?
 

KCLOST

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

Yes it's an overheat alarm, and most likely a water pump...
 

Outrage 19

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

The water pump is only a year old. Is there any chance it's the pop off or t stats?
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

Just replace the t-stats, piece of cake, and retest. The poppet is also easy to service... You do want to make sure it is opening at higher rpms...<br />I should have mentioned that earlier...
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

Originally posted by KCLOST:<br /> Just replace the t-stats, piece of cake, and retest. The poppet is also easy to service... You do want to make sure it is opening at higher rpms...<br />I should have mentioned that earlier...
Hey,<br /> I just logged on here and this is the first post I've read. Mine did almost exactly the same thing yesterday. (1988 150 V6)The alarm will not go off if I keep it below 4000 rpm. Water pump is about 3 months old. What is this "poppet" thing?<br /><br />Gary
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

Thanks KCLOST and Wildeone. I rebuilt this thing last year. The T stats opened at the proper temp so I didn’t replace them, I think 140F. The poppet looked so corroded I didn’t want to fool with it. Maybe this year, since I don’t have to bare the cost of pistons, it’s time to do the whole cooling system, impeller, housing, T stats, and poppet just for peace of mind.<br /><br />Southern Catfisher. The poppet valve is like a pressure relief valve so at hi rpm the extra water pressure has some where to go. I’m not sure why it’s needed but I do know if it’s not working right the engine will overheat.
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

Here is a link to show the poppet relief system<br /><br /> Poppet
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

Thanks KLOST and OUTRAGE 19.<br /> I looked at the "poppet". It looked to be in good condition with no corrosion or worn parts that I could see. Is there a way to check it at high rpm's?? If this is not the problem, do any of you have any other suggestions for the high rpm overheat problem?<br />Could it be something internal? Something I could check? I have a temp gauge with the sender located just below the top spark plug on the port side. Temps at 4000 rpm's are about 215. At higher rpm's, it will peg the gauge. (gauge goes to 230)I think the alarm is set to go off at 248 degrees. Ouch!!!<br /><br />Thanks much...Southern Catfisher
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

Are you sure that your motor is not too high up on the transom causing your water intakes to suck in air (at higher rpms)?<br /><br />The only way I know of to check the poppet, is if you have a pressure guage... This will show you what is happening with the cooling system at various temps and rpms... Let me look up an old post and I'll show the info that may help you...
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

Here is a copy of the post I was refering too...<br />Good information, and it matches my 86' merc 175 readings....<br /><br />
Here is a post from Trumanlake, who helped me with a topic I had a while back.<br /><br />This is not from a book, just his observation, but it makes sense. He has a 1987 Merc. 200... If you have a mid 80's Merc. more than likely you have a "high-pressure" water pump, that will create pressures like below......<br /><br />"A couple of things to think about, 1) the temperature of the water that you are running in the hose is what compared to the lake water, 2) what kind of pressure are you running on the garden hose? (more than 14-16 psi. will open the poppet valve and all kinds of cool water will flow. Remember that your water pump will put out approximately 8-11 psi @ idle (800 rpm roughly) after the thermostats open up, before then 13-14 psi @ idle. Once motor is warmed up and thermo's open it will take approx. 2600-3000 rpm to develop 18-20 psi. If you have a pressure gauge you can see exactly when all this occurs. If you idle away from the dock (no wake area) say 200-300 yds. then gas it you would see the pressure gauge start to climb then drop back just slightly as the thermo's open then as the rpm's increase the pressure will start climbing again. Now at this point (around 2200-2400 rpm) if you can turn around (carefully) you should notice a good tell tale but you will probably not notice any water being dumped out the exhaust ports on the backside of the motor, and the pressure will be fairly constant @ around 13-14 psi. Keep increasing the rpm's, at some point around 2500-3000 rpm the poppet should open because there is enough pressure to unseat the valve. Once the valve opens turn around (carefully again) and now you should notice that along with the tell tale you also have water being dumped out the exhaust ports. As the rpm's keep increasing the gauge will keep climbing and finally stop around 22-25 psi.<br />
Point being, if you don't have water exiting the upper exaust ports at above 3000 rpms, your poppet valve isn't opening.... You're probably going to need a friend to look at it for you, it's not exactly easy to confirm by looking from the seat...<br /><br />Let us know...
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

Thanks KCLOST,<br /> I will run the boat this weekend to see if any water is exiting the upper exhaust ports. I will also look into installing a water pressure gauge. The motor is in the bottom hole on the transom so it shouldn't be sucking air, but who knows?? Thanks for all the information. I have read other post on this forum, and concluded that my overheating problem is not uncommon and there is a systematic way of elimating the problem. Just need to take it step by step. This is a great site for information.<br /><br />Thanks again everyone,<br />Southern Catfisher
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

I think KCLOST has got you on the right track. One other possibility is if you have been dry starting the motor even for a few seconds you could have damaged the impeller(water pump). I have done this twice and am now a pro at takeing the lower unit off. Just my two cents. Good luck and let us know.<br />CU<br /><br />--------------------<br />RUNNING THE MOTOR WHILE LISTENING TO THE HORN WILL MAKE YOU MORN!!
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

kc<br />brings back memories huh? we need to fet together some time. good job!
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

If you have been running the motor with out water even for a few seconds you could have damaged the water pump resulting in overheating. Just a thought. Good luck and let us know.<br />CU<br /><br />-----------------<br />RUNNING THE MOTOR WHILE LISTENING TO THE HORN WILL MAKE YOU MORN!!
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

Woops I just posted this last night. I thought it sounded familiar.<br />CU
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

Hey Guys,<br /> If you are talking to me (Southern Catfisher), I have started a new post named "Hot 150 - Possible Fix?" Sorry about hijacking this thread.<br />Still working on the "hot" thing. Posted more info over there.<br /><br />Thanks....<br />Southern Catfisher
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

What are my bids for one slightly used outboard? :D :D :D
 

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Re: 1987 V-150 Warning Buzzer

I guess you can't post pic's directly any more.
 
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