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  1. Rivergator

    The easy way to install Alpha One/Gen1 bellows

    I am in the process of putting my whole Alpha One gimbal housing assembly back together. Every component of it has been gone over, repaired, serviced, painted. Anything that was not up to par has been replaced. The gimbal ring is back in the gimbal housing, both bellows have been properly...
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    Exhaust Flappers too tight

    I just got around dealing with my flappers a week ago. As I mentioned before in my case modification is definitely necessary and here is what I had to do. I removed a good 1/4" from the ring (see where the crack is) to reduce the OD of the ring, so it will fit into the Y pipe. However, this mod...
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    Exhaust Flappers too tight

    It is pretty much clear now that part number 807166A3 is a manufacturing error across the board. They are a faulty design no matter where you buy them from. Whether it is Quicksilver, Sierra, after market, made in USA, made in China or Timbuktu or anybody else it does not matter. THEY ALL DON'T...
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    Exhaust Flappers too tight

    Thanks @achris, yeah I am aware of the problem with the original one piece metal flappers and the pin wearing thru. If I were to make my own, improving on that would be part of the challenge. What I noticed on my old ones was that the pins were actually in pretty good condition and so were the...
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    Exhaust Flappers too tight

    I was wondering @Drcoffee, in your video you mentioned that these flappers were Mercury parts. You mean they were genuine Mercury/Quicksilver parts? Since mine were not I was thinking about returning my crappy parts and spending the 80 or 90 bucks on the real OEM stuff, but if you already did...
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    Exhaust Flappers too tight

    How many different Y pipes are there actually. Just two, right, like I have shown in post #9 and #16. Please correct me if I am wrong. I am curious. There is the old style, the one with the offset holes and the new style with the slot and square holes. Are there any other versions Y pipes?
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    Repair Y Pipe Possible?

    You have definitely been deceived and you should get your money back without any arguments. This Y pipe looks just like mine, pretty rotten. But I did restore mine. Take a look at my post "Restoring my Y pipe" It will help you decide what to do in case you get stuck with this thing.
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    Exhaust Flappers too tight

    If you look at the pictures in post #9 my Y pipe seems to be the old style with a hole, which btw is off centered and the stud in the other picture is also off centered and is supposed to go in that hole and it probably would if those flapper rings would fit properly. I admit what I bought did...
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    Exhaust Flappers too tight

    Thanks @Drcoffee and @achris. That made my day. No, we are not the only ones apparently. I have read a bunch of reviews online and half of the complaints are that these things don't fit, too tight, modification needed etc. and the other half of the complaints are that these things are total...
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    Exhaust Flappers too tight

    Can anybody confirm that #807166A3 is the correct flapper for my pipe. Chris please look at my Y pipe and confirm that the part I got is indeed the correct part. I am pretty sure it is, but please confirm. Thanks
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    Exhaust Flappers too tight

    44265-C is stamped on the pipe and when I search mercruiser 44265-C my Y pipe comes up along with offers on ebay and other vendors. I am surprised that you can't find it. Yes, I thoroughly read Chris' piece on the flappers and based on that I ordered 807166A3, but it doesn't fit. That's why I...
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    Exhaust Flappers too tight

    I received a set of new flappers 807166A3 for my 1988 Y pipe and I have 2 questions. Are these the right flappers for Y pipe 44265-C and if they are has anybody ever had a problem with any of the flappers (OEM or aftermarket) not fitting. The ones I received are a wee bit too large in diameter...
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    Alpha One/Gen1 Bell Housing Shift Shaft Bushings

    Thank you Chris and as usual you are probably right. I guess it is always sloppy. Where I come from it's called sloppy engineering or fuzzy engineering. I don't see a reason why there couldn't be a proper drainage passage in the bellhousing instead of doing something sloppy like this at the...
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    Restoring my Y pipe

    Thanks Bondo. LOL, that's about the extend of my machine shop, a grinder, a drill press and one hell of a vice. I just added the 12 ton shop press from Harbor Freight to my arsenal of weapons (my brother paid half of it). We will try it out on the weekend replacing the front wheel bearings on...
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    Alpha One/Gen1 Bell Housing Shift Shaft Bushings

    I am having a big problem with the shift shaft bushing kit 23-805041A2. I purchased a high quality kit from SEI part #9D-106-24K. This kit is the right kit for my Alpha One/Gen1 drive so it says. I read a few reviews about this kit ( including different brands) and the biggest complaint is that...
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    Restoring my drive bell housing

    Then you really appreciate what I did to my Y pipe. See thread "Restoring my Y pipe" tank1949, Salt water or no salt water, what difference does it make? After I cleaned out and ground away all the corrosion rot to the clean aluminum it was easy welding if you know what you are doing and the...
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    Restoring my drive bell housing

    Chris, "Restoring my drive bell housing" is just fine. I even acknowledged that in my post that this is the correct name. Sorry to touch on a nerve hear, but the term bell helmet is being used even by at least one Mercruiser dealer. The first time I heard it was 3 months ago when I was scouting...
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    Restoring my Y pipe

    I am sorry Scott, but I totally disagree. You only repeated what I already said in my post. The money would be VERY lucrative if I could do all of this myself and made a little business out of it. Even having to farm everything out and as picky as I am for $185 I have a PERFECT Y pipe which...
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    Restoring my drive bell housing

    LOL. Yes, I remember some 50 years ago Bell motorcycle and racing helmets were a household word. I don't even know if they are still around. But that was not what I was fixing. You are right those helmets should not be fixed if damaged in any way. But in the Mercruiser world I have heard guys...
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    Restoring my drive bell housing

    After the success of my Y pipe restoration I felt empowered to do the same to my bell housing. Unfortunately my original bell housing was beyond any hope of repair. The corrosion had eaten away most of the bellow rim way beyond the groove. I knew I needed to shop for a new one. The best I saw on...
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