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    Locate year of engine? Force 50 (and best place to get a service manual (cheap)

    It is NOT a valve issue.------Load test the battery.-----Take starter apart for inspection.-----Drain / change gear oil.-----Install new water pump impeller before your first expedition.
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    1976 35r76g s#e4599657 intermittent spark both plugs and no fuel to #2 cylinder

    there is no need for anything to rub inside the flywheel.----And why was the comment about paint on the pick-ups made ??
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    1976 35r76g s#e4599657 intermittent spark both plugs and no fuel to #2 cylinder

    The paint should never wear off the coils.-----No fuel to the bottom cylinder means an issue with reed valves or bottom crankshaft seal is bad.
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    2000 Johnson 200 Ocean Pro - Out Of Ideas... Please Help

    You are doing all this work ?----It is so simple and cheap to pull cylinder heads to inspect for scored cylinders.
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    1986, 110hp Johnson running rough

    Good compression would show about 130 on my gauge.----So you have a bad guage or a motor that needs work.----Pull bypass covers on the 100 PSI cylinders.----Look at pistons / rings.
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    Intermittent alarm

    The wires on the VRO are only for the " no oil " alarm.-----Did you pull that plug apart ?----Did you remove the oil tank.?
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    1985 evinrude 8hp impeller removal problem.

    There is usually a bit of air above the oil.-----It gets blended in with the oil.------The tiny bubbles that make the oil look " milky "------Let that oil sit for a week or so and see what happens.
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    1985 evinrude 8hp impeller removal problem.

    Tiny air bubbles make it look yellow.-----Let it sit for a week before checking oil.
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    Hood replacement

    Agreed----The one in post #4 will not fit.
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    25 horse 74167

    Top cylinder if it is screwed into the top coil.
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    Just bought new boat, trouble first time out. Please help.

    I have rebuilt numerous crossflow V-4 and V-6 outboards.----I know they suffer from the broken ring syndrome.----It is easy to understand why the upper ring breaks !!
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    Just bought new boat, trouble first time out. Please help.

    Draw a picture of the top piston ring.-----Now consider what happens to side clearance when.----piston wears.----when ring wears.----when cylinder wears !!!
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    Just bought new boat, trouble first time out. Please help.

    Have never seen a warning in an owners manual / service manual or label on a portable tank about running out of fuel.----Agreed that common sense has gone and left us..----Folks just rely on their phone to survive I think.
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    Force outboard maintenance

    disconnect gas line.----Run motor till it stops.
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    Force outboard maintenance

    Whenever the boat sits for a week or more you should run fuel out of the carburetor.---An empty carburetor stays clean.
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    Manual Tilt/Trim Swap between motors

    The 74 model 85 would be my choice if that matters to you.----It is a 50 year old motor.-----I would not even try and start a 50 year old motor.----It would come apart for complete inspection.----Top and bottom.
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    20rl73 johnson 20hp 2 stroke outboard

    I can not see , feel your motor.----You have to do the testing and inspection.----Guessing and assuming do not work.----This should be a simple fix.---Sorry if my suggestions based on 50+ years experience did not please you.
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    20rl73 johnson 20hp 2 stroke outboard

    Remove bypass covers to look at pistons/rings.---The 80 PSI compression is low.
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    Why does everybody hate Force?

    They are an excellent motor for those who know what they are doing.----Shops do not want them in the door because they often do not guarantee a profit or a happy customer.----No different than any other old motor.
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