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mirrocraft16

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I won a 2021 50hp Honda off eBay from a seller not 10 miles away for $55. It was listed by some old guy's widow who listed it for $1 and left it to bid. I totally did not expect to win it, I set a proxy bid of $101 and went to bed and woke up to a notice that I had won. I also fully expected the seller to back out or cancel the sale but I spoke to the seller and got the number of the woman she was selling it for right away. I drove over to get it on my way home from work that day.
It was on a stand in a garage in a fancy neighborhood she gave me two fuel tanks, the original box which had the receipt in it from online, and a box of oil and a spare prop. It had oil in it and had been run but the guy had been running purple synthetic oil in it.
It ran and pumped water just fine and looked new.

I thought about putting it on my 16ft boat but it weighed 228 lbs.
I listed it for sale and after a year at $1,200 there were no takers. I finally had a guy make the drive from Indiana for it who said he was going to give it to his son down in MS it had been listed for 17 months before it sold.

A motor that lists for $6k or more new and one that sold new then for $4,499 online when the original owner bought it should have had far more interest.
The seller was not more than 25 miles from the shore and listed it in what should have been prime season for boats and motors.
The ad was titled properly, the seller that listed it had 100% positive feedback. There just were no bidders. The auction I won was during the first week of March and it got 18 bids from three bidders. It was listed as pick up only. The seller said she was quoted over $450 when she looked into shipping it. That was almost one year ago now. The only explanation to it is that no one was looking for a motor.
She said the ad ran for 6 weeks and had gone unsold twice. The woman who listed it said it only had five hits and three watchers. When I asked if there was a boat she said he died before picking up the new boat he ordered the motor for.
I sort of figured he likely saw the deal on the motor online and found out that none of the dealers have aluminum boats in stock.

Something I do notice looking online today is that motors are cheaper new in the midwest than here and by several thousand dollars.
A new 50hp Honda online is $6500, the nearest dealer has them listed at $8,600 and on sale for $7,999.

The receipt for the motor I bought that I found in the box didn't show any shipping charge. I never showed the wife the bill from the box, I didn't think any good would come of it. She was happy to see it gone from her garage and to be able to pull the car inside.
 
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you'd be surprised about ebay. I see 2 cyl loopers (newer 1989-up w. trim/tilt) and 3 cyl 56ci OMC motors sell for $3500-$4800 if they are willing to ship! they all looked nice but werent even rebuilt. just supposedly "serviced" with the usual cam roller outer sleeves rotted away and no mention of even a carb service but some parts of the country these must be really popular. trouble is buyers can claim they dont run well and now the seller is SOL.
 

retroroy

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you'd be surprised about ebay. I see 2 cyl loopers (newer 1989-up w. trim/tilt) and 3 cyl 56ci OMC motors sell for $3500-$4800 if they are willing to ship! they all looked nice but werent even rebuilt. just supposedly "serviced" with the usual cam roller outer sleeves rotted away and no mention of even a carb service but some parts of the country these must be really popular. trouble is buyers can claim they dont run well and now the seller is SOL.
This is why there's no way I'd sell a whole motor or any thing that subjective on eBay. Parts are another story and although its not a set it stone rule, if your ad lists USED, AS IS No Returns For Parts or Repair only and your not a problem seller eBay will generally side with the seller, especially if the buyer has a history of claiming the item was not as described.

I don't do my own listing and have someone who does a lot of selling there and on other sites but I'll write any description for items I give her and there has been no issues. The biggest problem so far has been a few that bid and were banned before they paid long before the item shipped, eBay canceled the ad and ended the listing but re-instated the listing automatically.

I was at a fishing fleamarket the other day and one dealer had brought about 50 small used motors, they had 70's and 80's OMC 6 and 7 1/2hp motors and mid 90's Mercury motors, all two strokes. They had $750 on the OMC's and $450 on the Mercs. They had several 74-85 or so OMC 9.9 and 15hp motors all marked between $900 and $1,450, all sold as is,
They had a few 25-35hp motors that were covered in stick on camo, all in the late 70's to about '85 or so marked $750 each, and a dozen or so Tohatsu Mercury 9,9hp motors for $500 each, all looked pretty clean but all were as is. Plus a table full of shotguns, bows, rods and reels. I was there early and bought a few reels for way too cheap while guys swarmed the trailer and rows of used motors. By 10am all they had left were a dozen or so four stroke Mercs and a dozen Honda 9,9hp motors that looked pretty clean overall. Most were likely 2000's models. We left and went to a farm market for a bit and stopped by after about 2pm. No more of the motors had sold and they had marked the Honda motors down to $350 each or MAKE OFfER. The shotguns were down to only single shot models for $100 each and the rods and reels were mostly unsold. I made a pile of larger saltwater sized Penn reels and went home with 31 reels for $50 and two older surf poles for $10.
The woman at the table there said the 2 stroke motors were all gone by 9am. They had one larger newer 50hp Mercury four stroke there that looked new but was marked $1,500 but it was still on the stand when I left. I think the sign said 2015 on it. Big motors don't sell there, I lived up that way for 23 years and most guys had 14ft t0 16ft aluminum boats and a 5 to 20hp motor.

When I moved from there in 2005 I left my 16ft Grumman and 15hp Gale motor that ran 100% for the new owner who begged me to include it with the sale. I miss it but a boat like that would do me no good here and I had stopped using it because me and motor weight on the back would make it take on water if I wasn't super careful.

In the late 80's work moved me to PA, and FL back in the 90's and both then were hotbeds for boats and fishing, When I moved to NJ boats were hard to find here and used motors nearly impossible to find that weren't salt eaten or completely trashed and even so a 30 year old motor would run you $1,500. An ad on CL would get you 50 emails. Now it gets no emails at all. The same with FB. On FB all I ever got was emails wanting a number they can text or they want to pay by bitcoin or something other than cash.

I had a guy last night looking at a near new condition 2007 9.9hp Mercury 4 stroke that I told him $1200 for. I highly doubt if its ever seen water. He got mad when I refused his $250 offer. He had heard by word of mouth I had a bunch of motors for sale and thought he'd steal one cheap, I can get $300 for ta well used lower unit on eBay why would I ever sell a whole motor that cheap, let alone one that still has its hang tags
This morning I loaded all the four strokes up and sent them to a buddy to sell in FL, His son was passing through here with an empty truck so the timing is perfect. He guarranteed me $600 each for any small motor that's not seized. For now I just sent him the Mercs under 20hp. About two dozen motors to start with. I also found several more Force 9.9hp motors but I think those are keepers.
 
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This is why there's no way I'd sell a whole motor or any thing that subjective on eBay. Parts are another story and although its not a set it stone rule, if your ad lists USED, AS IS No Returns For Parts or Repair only and your not a problem seller eBay will generally side with the seller, especially if the buyer has a history of claiming the item was not as described.

I don't do my own listing and have someone who does a lot of selling there and on other sites but I'll write any description for items I give her and there has been no issues. The biggest problem so far has been a few that bid and were banned before they paid long before the item shipped, eBay canceled the ad and ended the listing but re-instated the listing automatically.

I was at a fishing fleamarket the other day and one dealer had brought about 50 small used motors, they had 70's and 80's OMC 6 and 7 1/2hp motors and mid 90's Mercury motors, all two strokes. They had $750 on the OMC's and $450 on the Mercs. They had several 74-85 or so OMC 9.9 and 15hp motors all marked between $900 and $1,450, all sold as is,
They had a few 25-35hp motors that were covered in stick on camo, all in the late 70's to about '85 or so marked $750 each, and a dozen or so Tohatsu Mercury 9,9hp motors for $500 each, all looked pretty clean but all were as is. Plus a table full of shotguns, bows, rods and reels. I was there early and bought a few reels for way too cheap while guys swarmed the trailer and rows of used motors. By 10am all they had left were a dozen or so four stroke Mercs and a dozen Honda 9,9hp motors that looked pretty clean overall. Most were likely 2000's models. We left and went to a farm market for a bit and stopped by after about 2pm. No more of the motors had sold and they had marked the Honda motors down to $350 each or MAKE OFfER. The shotguns were down to only single shot models for $100 each and the rods and reels were mostly unsold. I made a pile of larger saltwater sized Penn reels and went home with 31 reels for $50 and two older surf poles for $10.
The woman at the table there said the 2 stroke motors were all gone by 9am. They had one larger newer 50hp Mercury four stroke there that looked new but was marked $1,500 but it was still on the stand when I left. I think the sign said 2015 on it. Big motors don't sell there, I lived up that way for 23 years and most guys had 14ft t0 16ft aluminum boats and a 5 to 20hp motor.

When I moved from there in 2005 I left my 16ft Grumman and 15hp Gale motor that ran 100% for the new owner who begged me to include it with the sale. I miss it but a boat like that would do me no good here and I had stopped using it because me and motor weight on the back would make it take on water if I wasn't super careful.

In the late 80's work moved me to PA, and FL back in the 90's and both then were hotbeds for boats and fishing, When I moved to NJ boats were hard to find here and used motors nearly impossible to find that weren't salt eaten or completely trashed and even so a 30 year old motor would run you $1,500. An ad on CL would get you 50 emails. Now it gets no emails at all. The same with FB. On FB all I ever got was emails wanting a number they can text or they want to pay by bitcoin or something other than cash.

I had a guy last night looking at a near new condition 2007 9.9hp Mercury 4 stroke that I told him $1200 for. I highly doubt if its ever seen water. He got mad when I refused his $250 offer. He had heard by word of mouth I had a bunch of motors for sale and thought he'd steal one cheap, I can get $300 for ta well used lower unit on eBay why would I ever sell a whole motor that cheap, let alone one that still has its hang tags
This morning I loaded all the four strokes up and sent them to a buddy to sell in FL, His son was passing through here with an empty truck so the timing is perfect. He guarranteed me $600 each for any small motor that's not seized. For now I just sent him the Mercs under 20hp. About two dozen motors to start with. I also found several more Force 9.9hp motors but I think those are keepers.
yep. ive had bad experiences with gearcases especially. people can claim the dont shift right, and what can you do but give them what they want? that scared me away from listing any of my rebuild motors. if your potentially out $3-4k, thats a crap load of money and time down the drain . the 30 hrs alone lost to a bad buyer would make my blood boil. then shipping damage, insurance etc. its a risky bet im not gonna play anytime soon
 

reelfishin

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Go out and try and buy a motor anywhere and see what you get for $500.
Chances are its not a runner nor anywhere near being able to spend a day on the water. I see cheap motors all the time but there's a reason they're cheap or won't sell.
You know what will freeze over before I'd sell any decent motor for less than the sum of its parts.
Never put whole motors on ebay, sooner or later you'll take a hit from someone who knows how to work the system to get a free motor.

I did buy a few motors on eBay, both were for parts and both were dirt cheap. I bought a 1985 35hp Johnson for $90 that was seized. It came attached to a 16ft Steury atop a galvanized trailer. There were three bidders it was two hours away from home and had out of state papers stamped by some county surrogate as part of an estate.
I needed the lower unit which was in good shape, I sold the trailer later for $1k and the boat for $850 minus the trailer and I sold the bimini top for $100. The rest of the motor got parted out. It had likely overheated and seized by the looks of it. The top cylinder was stuck and the power head paint was burned brown around the top. When I went to pick it up it had two brand new 12" tires and rims on the trailer and two flat older wheels in the boat with four empty cans of WD40 and PB Blaster and two empty propane bottles and a torch. In short I made money on the deal and got my lower unit for free.

Also keep in mind that most people don't think very far ahead. If its warm one day they want to go fishing, if the weather turns cold for a few days they forget about that day they wanted to go fishing.
The news, weather, and mood all affect peoples spending and its gotten worse over the years. Ad in the fact that so many guys these days don't know which end of a screwdriver to hold the chances of them buying anything used or that may need some tinkering to get it going is pretty slim.
From years of experience I find that about 5% of those who buy a used boat or motor really know what they're buying and know the value of it, another 65% or so are gambling that a cheap motor will be just as good as a new one and if its not, they feel they can fix it for cheap. The rest are split between totally clueless, delusional, or they're looking to score a deal off an uneducated seller.

The younger generation doesn't seem to have cash or refuses to deal in cash. A long time friend of mine sells at a local fleamarket. He and his wife, both in their late 70's have done so since they retired 20 years ago. They said that they avoid any item that they need to sell for more than $20 because its the limit to what most of the crowd will spend. With a table now costing $40 for the day they're getting to the point where many days barely break even in rent and gas. They buy estate lots and sell just about everything but said lately sales are all but non existent over the past two years. Items that sold for $50 two years ago won't bring $10 today.
They also said the buyers have completely changed with the majority of the people walking around being older men to the majority of the crowd now being Mexican couples with 6 kids in tow that don't speak English or the 30 something's who don't have cash and expect someone at a fleamarket to take a credit card or money transfer. They also said that more and more people try to return used items weeks after the sale, They buy something, use it all summer and want their money back a few months later and the fleamarkets are starting to require sellers to take returns no questions asked. That alone would make me walk away.

There used to be a ton of fishing fleamarkets all over the place this time of year but they're all gone now. I've not seen one listed since 2019 but covid had a lot to do with that.
 

Mc Tool

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Far out , returns at flea markets .... I know what Id be telling them
I have bought heaps of stuff off ebay , only one issue ( which I
I won big time ) I bought engine parts from some guy in Canada , del date about 2 weeks so I paid air freight , but he put the stuff on a ship and after 8 weeks of no show , and several abusive emails from seller (coz apparently Pay pal had frozen his acc) , ebay refunded my money which triggered more emails going berserk at me , gotta admit that by this stage I was replying with emails designed to wind him up . Any how about 3 months later the stuff turned up ( not even close to description ) and he must have got a delivery notification . I gets an email from ebay saying seller had requested payment but I was under no obligation to pay , and by then I had fixed and sold the motorbike ( Yamaha RD400g ) so I reply to the seller and for once he was civil so we agreed to pay half ( I could easily sell the parts for more than the cost inc freight ) so Told him I had paid coz I figured as soon as he got the loot he would nut off again and I was right ,before finding out I hadnt he launched into a tirade , quite expletive about what he was going to do to my wife and kids ( I dont have any kids . @#^% that , might have had one like me :)) Then I realised he was sending these emails from his work PC so in the end I reported him to the local cops . Dunno what happened but I never heard from him again and I sold the parts .
 

starcraftkid

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I used to do several flea markets a year and when they started requiring you to accept returns and were talking about making sellers collect sales tax I was done.

Between the theft, scammers and tax people trying to catch you selling something new I just gave it up.

Yard sales were worse when it came to theft. The neighbors had a yard sale and caught some woman in there house digging through drawers,
Another neighbor had a lawn mower and two bird feeders stolen out of his back yard while he was set up out front selling.

We had a multi family yard sale one year and I had a guy try to walk off with an outboard, When I stopped him he said he had paid my wife, There were no women selling that day and I don't have a wife, He came close to getting himself seriously hurt that day, The dirt bag called the police and said I took his money and refused to give him the outboard.

The problem was he had done that before and the police knew him and his games, Turned out his truck was reported stolen by his ex father in law in another state so he left in hand cuffs. (When he returned to wait for the police he parked on my grass where he got blocked in by several other cars, when I told the officer to ticket him for driving on my lawn he found the stolen vehicle alert. It turned out he beat up his wife and took off in her fathers truck). I have to say I rather enjoyed watching him get cuffed and stuffed into a patrol car on my lawn that day.

When it comes to selling used motors here you get what you pay for most of the time but the boat crowd here is split between those who can afford a better motor and they just buy a new boat and motor, and then there's those who can't afford a new motor and they generally don't have any cash these days. I think the want us there but the money isn't.
 
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