120 evinrude still acting up

[hookedonjc]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

Hey walker I wander if the hose im talking about should be hooked to the primer. Id have to take the cover back off the carbs to see what I got I cant quite remember just not sure.

 

[Walker]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

Primer has 3 hoses. One slightly larger than the other 2. The 2 small ones go to Tees and then to the throttle plate. The hose I'm talking about goes from the nipple I described under the pulse limiter to a nipple on the intake just above the VRO
See if this file will open. Its the recirculation system.

 

[hookedonjc]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

Sorry one step behind

 

[hookedonjc]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

OK We are on the same place now. I got to think about what you just said a minuite. OK your saying its a single connection from the nipple on the intake to the nipple under the pulse limiter. and I guess the recirc goes to the other nipple directly across from the one under the pulse limiter. Is this right. If it is Ive had it all wrong.

 

[Walker]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

Yep thats it. . They should be different size nipples. The recirculation valve nipple is very small.

 

[hookedonjc]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

Hey walker Sorry my computer is a little older than my motor. I still cant get that file to open. Do you think this could be my problem on power loss.
Hooked

 

[Walker]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

I know recirculation system problems played heck with my motor. Terrible idle, inconsistant high rpm performance. It would accelerate fine for a couple of minutes til gas started accumulating behind the intake in the bottom of the crankcase. Once that happened it wouldn't run or accelerate right unless it sat for a couple of hours.
Was almost impossible to start. Used mucho gas. Carboned up the 2 lower plugs in minutes.
And I take back about the nipple sizes being different. They may be the same because the hose that comes from the one across from the pulse limiter goes directly to the inline valve.

 

[hookedonjc]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

OK I very much appreciate your help. Im gona get on it in the morning and get it tubed up right and try it. The neighbors might not like it if I fireit of tonight I hope this is it. Now that I think back I had some Question if I was hooking it back up right But the hoses seem to fit the way I had it but that was wrong according to what we have come up with. I will post the out come
Can you try that file agin? on email maybe

Thanks
Hooked

 

[Walker]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

I can email it. Give me a shout at tcaptain52@hotmail.com
and I'll send it to you.

 

[hookedonjc]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

One more thing what is the Errant hose do its not in my manual that I can see

Just call me Blister (Always shows up after the work is done)

 

[hookedonjc]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

OK I got the hoses in the right spots now. the two fittings close to the pulse limiter are different sizes. the one closest to the pulse limiter is the larger one so I connected my recirc line to that. Thats oppisite of what we were talking about I think. If you are in the boat looking back at the engine the smaller fitting is on the left. It busted off pretty good dont sound like its bogging like before but the real test will be on the water and thats where Im headed now.




Just call me Blister (Always shows up after the work is done)

 

[hookedonjc]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

welp the topic of my post still stands as is . The recirc hoses were wrong but same old problem. I just took it out and had to get my two boys to get up on the bow to eventualy get it planed off. then all I could get is 5200 RPM and no mater where its trimed. It feels like Im draging a Log. Still dont want to stay running good at an idle most of the time I have to use the warm up leaver to get it going. Whats wrong with this thing? One thing to note is it does idle better on the hose than in the water.



Just call me Blister (Always shows up after the work is done)

 

[Walker]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

I think you have those 2 hoses in the wrong place. Put the recirculation hose on the other nipple. On both my motors that hose that comes off the nipple just under the pulse limiter goes straight up to that nipple on the back of the intake right above the vro.

 

[Walker]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

Okay, I just went out and pulled my pan apart so I could see exactly what I have. The recirculation hose goes to the nipple way down by the shift linkage, the othet hose goes where I described.

 

[hookedonjc]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

OK I will swap them . I will post back and let you know how it works
Thanks
Hooked

Just call me Blister (Always shows up after the work is done)

 

[Walker]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

Fire her up and let her run for a while. If I'm correct you will have some gas accumulation in the bottom of the crankcase and it will take a while for the recirculation system to suck it all out.

 

[hookedonjc]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

Hey Walker I just took a look at it and the fitting below the pulse limiter is a 90 deg fitting that is a little larger than the other fitting right above the shift linkage which is a straight fitting My tube comming from the fitting just above the VRO want fit the 90 deg fitting right below the pulse limiter Im pretty sure I didnt remove those during rebuild they look to be compressed in and they still got all the paint on them. I noticed when I was looking up in there I pulled the hose off the pulse limiter rather easy and it didnt have a tyrap on it. Could that be playing a factor?

Just call me Blister (Always shows up after the work is done)

 

[Walker]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

Don't know if that would cause the problems you're having but it does need to be clamped on with tyrap or OMC clamp.

 

[hookedonjc]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

OK My Bad I see now the fitting right below the pulse limiter is the one I got going up to the intake just above the VRO. and the other fitting which is the 90 deg fitting next to the shift linkage is connected to the recirculation tubes. Thats how I ran it today. Im going to put a clamp on that pulse limiter hose and run it for a while like you said
Thanks for hanging in there with me on this one.



Just call me Blister (Always shows up after the work is done)

 

[hookedonjc]

Re: 120 evinrude still acting up

Ok I got all that buttoned up. I ran it and it runs good on the hose. I pulled the recirculation line off the #1 Cylinder and it was blowing a little fuel out. I pulled the line off the #3 cylinder and it wasent blowing anything. What ya think. I remember checking all the recirculation valves with a syringe and alcohol. Do you think I should pull these out agin and recheck since I had it tubed wrong before?

Just call me Blister (Always shows up after the work is done)