140 mercruiser engine tap

ljs22

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Re: 140 mercruiser engine tap

when i find witch one what do i do tighten it if so how much till it stops ticking or a little further after ticking stops and what exactly is a wrist pin and how would i tighten that? thanx for your advice man i need it!

I am not sure of the procedure to adjust lash, but I can tell you that the wrist pin is the large pin that holds the piston to the connecting rod. If that is the culprit you will most likely have to pull the motor out to remove the connecting rod and piston from the crank. There is no tightening that pin. All you can do it look at why it is making noise. If it is loose then you will probably need to replace that piston or rod. Then you start to look at why replace one piston when there are 3 others that you have easy access to right now. Then you look at the bores and figure why not hone them. Then the machine shop tells you they are too far out of spec and you will have to bore them. It seems to go on and on. That is a real job, but I would never go so far as to discourage you from giving it a try if you are willing to put in the time and money. It is far easier to buy a short block already rebuilt though.

Some people don't even want to change their own bellows let alone tear in to the actual motor. It is all a matter of what you want to learn by just doing it. It gets expensive, but no amount of asking questions from people that tell you to read a manual will teach you more then taking it apart and looking at how it goes back together.

I will hypocritically tell you to download or buy the proper manual and read up as much as possible. Then ask questions about what the manual it telling you to do. I can tell you first hand that there is no way a novice is going to read the Mercruiser Factory Manual and figure out half of what it is telling you to do. I seem to spend half my time trying to figure out where o-rings and gaskets actually go and I consider myself mechanically inclined.
 

sea wolf

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Re: 140 mercruiser engine tap

While you have the valve cover off, you may as well check/adjust all of the valves. The procedure is not that difficult.
 

borz170

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Re: 140 mercruiser engine tap

This forum used to be great. Maybe it still. Lately I have been reading a lot of posts from people who keep advising people in need, to read a manual. Like earlier mentioned in this thread, reading manuals isn''t for everyone. The readers digest version comming from experience can be more usefull, than hours of reading a manual that changes from year to year on the same basic engine.

I have also read a bunch of posts from people who just want to get a laugh from another person's misfortune and frustration.

Adjusting valves:

1. Get into old clothes
2. Get a big towel/rag
3. Remove valve cover and be sure oil is topped off.
4. Get apropriate rachet wrench.
5. Start engine and cover all valves except the one you are working on.
6. Loosen all valves until rocker starts to tick, then tighten just until it barely stops ticking. Do them one at a time.
7. Put a 1/4 turn on each valve, slowly. Start with #1 then work to back of engine.
8. Put another 1/4 turn on each valve, just like step 7. This will most likely cause engine to bog down for a brief moment until it becomes acustom to the new setting.
9. Kill engine and check oil, topping off acordingly.
10. Restart engine and spray with a degreaser, then rinse.
11. Go take a shower, change, ice down a cooler of beer, get your dogs/wife/girlfriend loaded and go boating.
12. On second thought, leave the woman on shore (lol)
 

MikDee

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Re: 140 mercruiser engine tap

Well done borz, That's the basic info he needed ;)
 

michaeli84

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Re: 140 mercruiser engine tap

thanks for the input man, i took a piece of hose and stuck it in my ear( i wasnt happy about it at all) and i started sticking it on different parts of the engine their was no ticking coming from the valve train it was loudest at the camshaft cover above the crank, not good news really but the motor was rebuilt never ran for about 6 years so i figured it was probably a sticking lifter so i emptied out a quart of oil and put in that marvel mystery oil and let it idle for about 20 min and then put it up to 3000 for about 2 min and the ticking sounds like its coming from the back of the motor now by the flywheel housing its weird man i never ran it with a load yet im gonna take it iut tommorow and see what happens hopefully it will go away. i just want to add that the oil pressure is stable at about 30 at idle and rose to about 40 at 3000 rpm so thats good i dont think the bearings are bad the engine is very smooth no moving really at all i might just have to blow the cobbwebs out of it thanks.
 

duoboat1974

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Re: 140 mercruiser engine tap

i have a 74 140 hp mercruiser and had the same sounds you were talking about, after lashing valves it was still there. i took the timing cover off and come to find out my cam gear had began to move off the cam in turn my lifters were getting hit by 2 different lobes. marina said they have ran into this problem before and have also seen the 2 screws that hold the thrust plate come loose. i hope yours not that serious but if you cant get the noise to quit i would suggest looking into the cam gear. an easy way to tell is to watch your valves as the motor is being turned over, if it is making more than 1 move in the same stroke its probably the cam and/or gear. you can also pull your lifters out and look to see if there are any knicks out of the bottoms of them. hope this helps!
 

Bondo

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Re: 140 mercruiser engine tap

This forum used to be great. Maybe it still. Lately I have been reading a lot of posts from people who keep advising people in need, to read a manual. Like earlier mentioned in this thread, reading manuals isn''t for everyone. The readers digest version comming from experience can be more usefull, than hours of reading a manual that changes from year to year on the same basic engine.

Ayuh,... At only 110 posts,... Maybe You should be spending more time here,...
Answering the Same questions, Over,+ Over,+ Over,+ Over,+ Over,+ Over,+ Over,+ Over,+ Over,+ Over,+ Over,+ Over,+ Over....
That's Why Don set up the Adults Only section,... As a reference that can be pointed too, rather than typing the Same responces...

This forum is for folks who are at least somewhat Mechanically minded,+ can READ....
This is Not a forum for folks who know Nothing about motors, nor the vocabulary to discuss their Problems...
Knowledge Never passes if the reciever can't understand the language....

I learned to adjust Chevy valves at 13 year old,...It's the Most Basic operation on a Chevy,...
Only slightly more complicated than changing the danm Sparkplugs...

If the Answers given in this forum are Over your head,....You probably need a Mechanic, Not a Manual...

Btw,... You're adjusting the valves Way too loose... 3/4 turn puts the push-rod about in the center of the lifters hyd. travel...

If it seems to stupid for you than just ignore it there is no need to belittle a simple question that i ask and then not even answer it correctly.

Look Dude,... Read Your posts....That's the Only Info I have on just what you're doing...
I answered your question,.... Correctly......
 

michaeli84

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Re: 140 mercruiser engine tap

no not a mechanic thats why im asking you! at the same time trying to save alittle$. Also learning so if something goes wrong on the water i can figure it out and be on my way. i got the thing running by myself and ill get to the bottom of the tick sooner or later sorry if i rubbed you wrong but i thought the aye thing was you being annoyrd with my question but after reading more post i see you say it ti everybody sorry mike and also the ticking goes away then comes back weired
 

michaeli84

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Re: 140 mercruiser engine tap

thank you if it is that same prob i need to pullit and new cam bearings and lifters right will this cause the motor to seize if untreated? or just noise
 

MikDee

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Re: 140 mercruiser engine tap

Check to see if your crankshaft pulley bolts are loose, I had an engine making noise like you described (coming, & going) and it turned out the bolts got loose.
 

Silvertip

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Re: 140 mercruiser engine tap

If you want to make a mess, remove the valve cover, start the engine and loosen one rocker arm pivot ball nut SLOWLY until that lifter begins to clatter. Then SLOWLY tighten the nut until the clatter just disappears (this is zero lash). Now tighten the nut SLOWLY 1/4 turn, pause 10 seconds, then turn another 1/4 turn pause 10 seconds and turn it another 1/4 turn (total = 3/4 turn max from zero lash). Repeat for all other valves. If you don't want to make a mess, remove the valve cover, set the piston for the valve you are working on so the valve is fully closed. Loosen the rocker arm nut until you can rotate the pushrod. tighten the nut (SLOWLY) until the pushrod is just tight. Now SLOWLY tighten the nut 3/4 turn max. Repeat for all valves making sure each one is fully closed before making the adjustment.
 

michaeli84

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Re: 140 mercruiser engine tap

thanks i did all the vaves and i still have the tap i put it in the water with a load and it ran good omly heard the tap at idle but no stalling or anything im just worried it might mess up on the water so thats a chance i have to take thanks for the input man
 
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