15.5ft beachcraft transom and stringer replacement

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If you go to your initial post, and click edit
then Go Advanced
there should be a thread title box that you can edit in the top left of the advanced editing window. Up above all the format & etc frame...

There may be 2, make sure you edit the top upper 1, the other just changes the title of the individual posts not the thread.....

Just change it to the now 'corrected' model :cool:

Yes you should add some support up under the bow as well. Not hard to do & everything you do to prevent hull movement the better, IMHO..
 

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Re: 15.5ft beachcraft transom and stringer replacement

IMG_5222 (800x600).jpgIMG_5223 (800x600).jpgIMG_5224 (800x600).jpgToday I got the cap off and the transom out, it was really bad so I'm sure glad I'm doing this. When I build the new transom should I make it 1/4 inch shorter on the top and build it up to original height with fiberglass? The old one didn't have anything covering on top just the bare wood and then the aluminum cap. The cap which was stock had 20 screws holding it down, is there a better way to do that when the time comes so I'm not filling the new with holes? I measured the width every ft and wrote on the hull at that point for reference during the rebuild. I don't have much for bow support yet so I just worked on the stern. I think I can get the floor out with out removing the wall to the front cubby which I think will help keep the sides from bowing as much? Can someone tell me the best way to fix the exterior damage by the drain plug in my first set of pictures. I'm kind of feeling like I know enough to be dangerous at this point so if anybody sees something I'm doing Wrong please let me know. All pointers are very appreciated.
 

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I was going to start pricing out my fiberglassing materials can anyone give me a idea of how much I will need?
 

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Re: 15.5ft beachcraft transom and stringer replacement

This will get you pretty close for a boat your size.

15 Gallons of 435 Resin (Uscomposites.com)
15 yds 1708 Biaxial Cloth
20 yds of 1.5 oz CSM
4 gallons of Cabosil
2 lbs of 1/4" Chopped Strand (or cut up your own from scraps of the CSM)
 

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Re: 15.5ft beachcraft transom and stringer replacement

This will get you pretty close for a boat your size.

15 Gallons of 435 Resin (Uscomposites.com)
15 yds 1708 Biaxial Cloth
20 yds of 1.5 oz CSM
4 gallons of Cabosil
2 lbs of 1/4" Chopped Strand (or cut up your own from scraps of the CSM)

Thank you.
 

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Re: 15.5ft beachcraft transom and stringer replacement

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Today I beefed up the cradle to extend to the bow. It feels extremely solid now from bow to stern and am feeling good about removing everything. Did a bunch of grinding to clean up for the new transom, Probably five more minutes worth and the boat is ready for a new one. Windsor is out of marine ply and it won't be in until mid week so I did this work instead.I discovered a piece I thought was straight fiberglass is actually a strip of 1/2 inch ply that lays flat to the hull and is about three inchs wide (picture above). Can I replace this with 3/4 inch as I will have some left over from my transom and stringers or do I need to get a whole sheet of 1/2 inch marine to replace these. What should the temp be outside for fiberglass work. It is still wintery up here (couple degrees above freezing). I'm going to get my new transom built and ready until it warms up and finish taking out my floor and stringers. Is there any advantage to replacing the transom first before removing the rest of the floor and stringers? Any advice for my #22 post
 

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15 Gallons of 435 Resin (Uscomposites.com)

FYI - I called US Composites last summer for a shipping quote and they would not ship poly resin out of country. Sucked cause the pricing for everything was way better than anywhere else I could find.
They said they would ship epoxy though.

Good luck with the build, nice boat. Motor sounds sweet!
James
 

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Been pricing fiberglass supplies. Any of you guys in western Canada should check out The Fiberglass Center in New Westminster BC. They have a website. 5 gal poly resin 105.50, acetone 5 gal 75.00, 1808 (all they had) 6.10 yd, csm 1.5x50 4.20yd, 8 litre ( 2.5 gal) foam 75.00, 10 pnd cabosil 89.00. plus 50 bucks freight about a 5 hour trip. I ordered the unwaxed resin and air dry for my outer layers is that what you guys recommend? Best price on fir marine grade 3/4 in my area is 93.00 a sheet. still looking for pointers on my #22 and #26 post:)
 

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Pricing sounds real good compared to what I spent. Let me know how the products, delivery, service are etc..
Thanks,
James
 

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Today I got the cap off and the transom out, it was really bad so I'm sure glad I'm doing this. When I build the new transom should I make it 1/4 inch shorter on the top and build it up to original height with fiberglass? The old one didn't have anything covering on top just the bare wood and then the aluminum cap. The cap which was stock had 20 screws holding it down, is there a better way to do that when the time comes so I'm not filling the new with holes? I measured the width every ft and wrote on the hull at that point for reference during the rebuild. I don't have much for bow support yet so I just worked on the stern. I think I can get the floor out with out removing the wall to the front cubby which I think will help keep the sides from bowing as much? Can someone tell me the best way to fix the exterior damage by the drain plug in my first set of pictures. I'm kind of feeling like I know enough to be dangerous at this point so if anybody sees something I'm doing Wrong please let me know. All pointers are very appreciated.

When you build your transom make it 1/4" short all the way around, you want to be able to fill the bottom and sides with peanut butter and make a nice cove fillet. You can build the top up with glass too.

Screwing the transom cap dow is standard installation, but you can do a better job by screwing it down then removing the screws and applying marine sealant to the threads and reinstalling them.

The exterior damage near the drain looks like mostly gel coat damage to me, you can do a couple of layups of 1708 on the inside to reinforce it if it feel weak though.

Today I beefed up the cradle to extend to the bow. It feels extremely solid now from bow to stern and am feeling good about removing everything. Did a bunch of grinding to clean up for the new transom, Probably five more minutes worth and the boat is ready for a new one. Windsor is out of marine ply and it won't be in until mid week so I did this work instead.I discovered a piece I thought was straight fiberglass is actually a strip of 1/2 inch ply that lays flat to the hull and is about three inchs wide (picture above). Can I replace this with 3/4 inch as I will have some left over from my transom and stringers or do I need to get a whole sheet of 1/2 inch marine to replace these. What should the temp be outside for fiberglass work. It is still wintery up here (couple degrees above freezing). I'm going to get my new transom built and ready until it warms up and finish taking out my floor and stringers. Is there any advantage to replacing the transom first before removing the rest of the floor and stringers? Any advice for my #22 post

Replacing the 1/2" ply with 3/4" shouldn't be a problem.

Temps should be at least 15-20*C for glassing and glueing, everything will be very slow to set and cure at 15 and 20*+ is a lot better... and if you think that's something, the temps need to be about 30*C for the best expansion rate on the expanding foam. That's almost hot enough to melt the permafrost and tundra up there eh?!:D
 

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Thanks for all the good tips Jigngrub. My plywood should be in Friday so might get my transom cut and glued this weekend and do some more demo. I will be starting a new thread on structural support needed to ice rate the runabout boat and lifejackets or ice skates " what to have on if your boats going down?":laugh:
 

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This might be of interest to you on your transom build...
"Fabricating Decks, Stringers, and Transoms"

One of the MOST important features is to fill all voids in the wood especially on the edges and make it as smooth as you can prior to pre-coating the wood. When the resin Tacks up then apply the first layer of CSM
 

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Got the floor and foam all cleaned out today. I always read about it being Pandoras box under the floor, it was more like Pandoras diaper. IMG_5240 (800x600).jpgIMG_5241 (800x600).jpgIMG_5247 (800x600).jpgIMG_5246 (800x600).jpg
There was actually standing water after I got all the foam out and this boat hasn't had rain on it since I got it 2 years ago. I was going to remove the stringers but at the back just infront of the bilge is a fiberglass box and I'm not sre if I should just cut it out and replace it, I'm not sure if it some kind of ballast or what it is really solid. There is a picture above if someone could let let me know what to do that would be great I would love to take the rest apart in the morning. I also noticed today the hull has spread just under 1/2 inch from about a foot from the stern and eight ft up. Is this somethimg I should be worried about and what should I do or will there be enough give when I put the cap back on?
 

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I'd cut those stringers and bulkheads off of that box and take a look see at it after. The stringers and bulkheads have gotta go anyway, and with them out of the way you can see what kind of shape thatbig chunk is in... is it wet, is it dry, is it rotten, is it solid? No one knows until you do a little surgery.

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Just cut along the edges of the stringers and bulkheads to remove them.
 

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Re: 15.5ft beachcraft transom and stringer replacement

I'd cut those stringers and bulkheads off of that box and take a look see at it after. The stringers and bulkheads have gotta go anyway, and with them out of the way you can see what kind of shape thatbig chunk is in... is it wet, is it dry, is it rotten, is it solid? No one knows until you do a little surgery.

beachcraftrottenstringerspaint_zps8f1262f7.jpg


Just cut along the edges of the stringers and bulkheads to remove them.

Thanks Jigngrub for the time and advice. I'll post later what I get done today probably with another list of Questions.
 

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Got everthing out today. The mystery box I think was a motor mount. Would they build them to have either options in the early stage and then decide later in the build which they wanted? It had 2, 4x4 under it. Anyway I took it all out. Do I need to replace this in the rebuild? I don't think it has any support value. In my centre stringer there was anywhere from 1/2 to 1 inch of open space from the bottom of the stringer to the keel. Should this be filled with PB in the build or left as open air. I have a good day of grinding left to do, I got my plywood so I'm going to build my transom and cut out my stringers and bulkheads so I'm ready when the fiberglassing weather gets here.
 

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Got everthing out today. The mystery box I think was a motor mount. Would they build them to have either options in the early stage and then decide later in the build which they wanted? It had 2, 4x4 under it. Anyway I took it all out. Do I need to replace this in the rebuild? I don't think it has any support value. In my centre stringer there was anywhere from 1/2 to 1 inch of open space from the bottom of the stringer to the keel. Should this be filled with PB in the build or left as open air. I have a good day of grinding left to do, I got my plywood so I'm going to build my transom and cut out my stringers and bulkheads so I'm ready when the fiberglassing weather gets here.
 

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Motor Mount in an Outboard hull??? I don't think so.
 

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Any Ideas of what it is ?
 

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Any Ideas of what it is ?

Just a possibility. Maybe the factory boat builder used the I/O design by mistake. Or they used the same design for outboard and I/O. I would build it back the same way.
 
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