16' Starcraft 65 hp 4 cylinders?

[csisommout]

I planing to buy this boat, The owner said it turns over when he connected 2 wires togather.

what do i look for when i go look at it? how do i know if the power heads are ok? I worry about big problems only.
I can do the rebild carb and tune up kits no problem.

Any advice will be appreciated, Thank you, cal s.

 

[F_R]

Re: 16" Starcraft 65 hp 4 cylinders?

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Compression, spark, and water in gearcase are the major things. I mention spark because that motor has the battery CD ignition system, not the greatest thing ever invented, and $$$$.

Clutch dog & gear would be the fourth big item, but no way to test that without an on-water test.

EDIT: "hook two wire together"?? Wonder what that means. If it is not properly wired, you cannot test the spark. Well you COULD but that would require a bunch of explaining how-to.

 

[csisommout]

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is that not a good motor? He siad it turns over, Is that mean all 4 cylinders have spars? Thank you.

 

[F_R]

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Actually, I have no idea what he means by "turns over". Normally that would mean the the starter will crank the motor, but probably won't run. Those motors were great by 1968 standards when it was built. This is over 40 years later and much has changed. If I were considering buying it, it would have to be dirt cheap if he can't demonstrate that it runs. But that pretty much applies to whatever boat you are looking at, right?

BTW, does it have a valid title? Just wondering.

 

[Home Cookin']

Re: 16" Starcraft 65 hp 4 cylinders?

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that's a real big (heavy) motor for that boat. I think I'd price it out for the hull and trailer and plan to repower from the start. Put a 48-65 HP on it that's a little more reliable. You'll need to match up the controls, too. Yours are probably shot judging from the starting method

from what you've described, and the photo, I'd say it's a $500 rig, if the hull is soild and ready to go. And you get a clear title to both units.

 

[csisommout]

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The price is $ 375.00. he meant by turns over, it is not frozen, the starter turning. What does it mean by CD? or battery cd ignition?

No ignition ciols?. what compression shold be for that motor?

 

[F_R]

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CD ignition means Capacitor Discharge ignition. The early versions were powered by the boat battery. Starting in the 1970's they were phased out and replaced by "Mag CD", powered by electricity generated by special coils under the flywheel. The motor you are considering has battery CD. 12V battery voltage is fed to the amplifier where it is converted to about 300V. That 300V is stored in a capacitor till time to fire a plug. The motor has dual breaker points under the flywheel, purpose is to tell the amplifier when to discharge the 300V. Then the 300V is discharged through the primary winding of a single spark coil, inducing a high voltage in the secondary winding, sufficient to fire a spark plug. But hold on, it isn't done yet. Now that high voltage must be directed to the proper spark plug. That happens by sending it to a distributor, also under the flywheel, which points it to the proper plug wire. Carelessness or lack of maintenance will blow the amplifier. The distributor is a POS. The breaker points are ok, but require maintenance. There is an anti-reverse spring that prevents the motor from running backwards (yes, it can), that must be serviced, along with the breaker points. Many parts are unavailable or very expensive.

Mag CD, on newer motors is very different. No battery voltage needed, or amplification. No breaker points. No distributor. Separate spark coils for each cylinder. Difference? Like night and day.

EDIT: You can see the exploded parts diagram for your 65hp at http://www.marineengine.com/parts/parts.php?gclid=CKLS__vfppsCFRKIxwodFlHZxg. It is a 1968

EDIT: EDIT: The price is dirt cheap. If I were looking for a boat I would consider it. I just want you to know you may be looking at some work and possible expense, and will probably have to do your own repairs. Who knows, it might be a turn key and go. If not, you can always part it out.

 

[Gibbles]

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The price is $ 375.00. he meant by turns over, it is not frozen, the starter turning. What does it mean by CD? or battery cd ignition?

No ignition ciols?. what compression shold be for that motor?

It has a coil
and it also has what many refer to as the switch box, its a large box where alot of wires connect to.

this unit requires a battery to provide it power in order to function, if that part fails you will not get any spark, they run around $200-$350 for a new one.

if that's a tin starcraft, get it!
tha's a great price if the hull is in good shape and you don't see any pitting in the alum hull.

If the motor does not work out, fix the boat up and find another motor.

If it's a fiberglass starcraft, keep looking...

Tin starcraft's are easy to restore

Check out the starcraft forum
http://forums.iboats.com/forumdisplay.php?f=53

 

[F_R]

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It looks like a fiberglass boat from here. I used to own a 16' fiberglass Starcraft. It was ok, I suppose, but the worst riding boat I've ever seen. It would rattle the fillings out of your teeth in a six inch chop.

 

[Gibbles]

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It looks like a fiberglass boat from here. I used to own a 16' fiberglass Starcraft. It was ok, I suppose, but the worst riding boat I've ever seen. It would rattle the fillings out of your teeth in a six inch chop.

A trihull is the worst riding boat I have been in!

but it's very stable to walk around in

 

[csisommout]

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Thank you, all

 

[ezmobee]

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Unless it's turn key (which it isn't) it seems like it could be a real money pit. For the larger Johnson/Evinrudes I'd prefer 1973 and newer due to far better parts support.

 

[JB]

Re: 16' Starcraft 65 hp 4 cylinders?

Unless it's turn key (which it isn't) it seems like it could be a real money pit. For the larger Johnson/Evinrudes I'd prefer 1973 and newer due to far better parts support.

Ditto

 

[cyclops2]

Re: 16' Starcraft 65 hp 4 cylinders?

Do yourself a HUGE favor.

Forget this boat & motor. It has had it. Dead.
Maybe it comes with 2 more spare wires to start it. If the first 2 break in rough waters ?

You can & will do better.