1957 evinrude 35hp lark

[guitarmanhoffy]

Hi all. I would like to find out the fuel mix for my 1957 35hp rude. Been lookin at some of these posts and I think I read on one of them that the mix is 32:1? Can anyone help confirm this? Thanks for the help.

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

There are bearings on all moving parts within that powerhead. As such, you can safely use the 50/1 fuel/oil mixture.

 

[Willyclay]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

Do you need a manual?

 

[lindy46]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

I have the same motor and run 24:1 gasil, TCW-3 Oil. Original owner's manual says 1 quart per tank (doesn't say what size tank) or 1/2 pint per gallon of gas.

 

[coolguy147]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

There are bearings on all moving parts within that powerhead. As such, you can safely use the 50/1 fuel/oil mixture.

u sure?

run 24:1 mix tcw-3 marine outboard oil. synthetic will smoke less.

 

[ryendube]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

I use 50:1 and have for a couple years. (not alot of use but enough) i recently asked same question after reading a million different opinions. It made me think I was trashing my motor. Reeves' answer set my mind at ease. 24:1 is a hell of alot of oil.

1 thats twice the oil slick for the fishies to drink

2 at 50:1 motor seems to start alot easier.

I dont have alot of experience with boat motors but I do with cars, people have said it doesnt matter about oil technology etc but synthetics lubricate far better than reg oils. Motors run cooler and parts are coated better.

I feel safer with a good quality 50:1 mix than some crapmart oil at 24:1

 

[ryendube]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

oh and I have the exact motor. '57 35hp


I was recently lookin at old ads for the motor in magazines etc. I laughed when I read the slogan. Evinrude the quiet outboard. jebus quiet compared to what? Its actually possible to have a motor make more noise?

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

CoolGuy...... Yep, I'm sure. Been/was in this line of work since 1960/1991 and followed every update by OMC, seminars, bulletins, factory reps advice, etc etc like it was gospel, and was personally aquainted with Lou Eppel who was the head man of OMC's mechanical department. If the powerhead's moving components (main bearings, connecting rod to crankshaft bearings, wrist pin bearings) are "all" needle, roller, or ball type bearings, those engine could safely use the 50/1 mixture.

I personally followed this rule and have never encountered a failure due to a lack of lubrication.

 

[Joe Reeves]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

Ryendube..... At some point around 1961, OMC started to soundproof the shroud of their engines, and the sound level dropped considerably compared to other outboards.

Your engine, unfortunately (1957), was manufactured prior to that.

 

[coolguy147]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

what about the face that the motor i heard leak a bit of gas and oil on purpose just to make the motor idle better isnt that kinda the reason y u see so much oil spill in the water

 

[ryendube]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

Ryendube..... At some point around 1961, OMC started to soundproof the shroud of their engines, and the sound level dropped considerably compared to other outboards.

Your engine, unfortunately (1957), was manufactured prior to that.

You think spraying a some sound deadener onto the inside of the cowl would help? Thats the route Im thinking of going

 

[F_R]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

Ryendube..... At some point around 1961, OMC started to soundproof the shroud of their engines, and the sound level dropped considerably compared to other outboards.

Your engine, unfortunately (1957), was manufactured prior to that.

If you think your 1957 is noisy, you have never ran a '53. Or some others that I can mention, like a '59 Gale Sovereign.

I agree 100% with Joe on the oil mixture, but I rarely say it in public. Reason is, anytime a motor blows up for any reason, you can bet your boots it will get blamed on the oil and the sob that said it is ok. Even though it has been ingesting water and rusting the bearings for the last three years.

And, yes the crankcase drains do dump overboard on the majority of old motors. New ones dump oil too, they just hide it. Where do you think that oil that you put in the gas goes, anyway?

 

[cougar1985]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

CoolGuy...... Yep, I'm sure. Been/was in this line of work since 1960/1991 and followed every update by OMC, seminars, bulletins, factory reps advice, etc etc like it was gospel, and was personally aquainted with Lou Eppel who was the head man of OMC's mechanical department. If the powerhead's moving components (main bearings, connecting rod to crankshaft bearings, wrist pin bearings) are "all" needle, roller, or ball type bearings, those engine could safely use the 50/1 mixture.

I personally followed this rule and have never encountered a failure due to a lack of lubrication.

where would the cut off for 50:1 be then joe?curious as i have a 54 25hp rude and a 58 18 hp rude.ive always felt that using syn oil you could get away with 50:1 for the 58 for sure but not sure about the 54.now my 39 22.5 evinrude is another animal all together,that thing runs at about 16:1 or so.3/4 pint for every gallon!

 

[F_R]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

where would the cut off for 50:1 be then joe?curious as i have a 54 25hp rude and a 58 18 hp rude.ive always felt that using syn oil you could get away with 50:1 for the 58 for sure but not sure about the 54.now my 39 22.5 evinrude is another animal all together,that thing runs at about 16:1 or so.3/4 pint for every gallon!

You simply cannot establish a year for the cut-off point. Your '54 25hp has bronze wrist pin bearings that are known to wear badly, even at 25:1. I wouldn't advise less oil in that one. The pre-1961 10hp motors are also noted for wrist pin problems. The 18 is probably ok. On the other side of the story is the fact that a lot of small motors have plain bearings and are factory reccommended at 50:1, and do just fine.

This subject always brings heated emotion and a bunch of opinions. And now here I am breaking my self-imposed ban on saying anything about it. Gotta shut up now.

 

[cougar1985]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

You simply cannot establish a year for the cut-off point. Your '54 25hp has bronze wrist pin bearings that are known to wear badly, even at 25:1. I wouldn't advise less oil in that one. The pre-1961 10hp motors are also noted for wrist pin problems. The 18 is probably ok. On the other side of the story is the fact that a lot of small motors have plain bearings and are factory reccommended at 50:1, and do just fine.

This subject always brings heated emotion and a bunch of opinions. And now here I am breaking my self-imposed ban on saying anything about it. Gotta shut up now.

lol FR! know what you mean ,i mentioned something along the same lines in another forum once and got damn near hung by the so called experts !

 

[tmcalavy]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

Oil is cheap, fixing/running the old iron isn't...I won't take a chance with my 57 E-rude 35 hp Big Twin or my Johnson RD-19E 35 hp or my Johnson FD-11 18 hp...even though I have the greatest respect for all who contribute to the board. Don't ever want to see the insides of any these motors, bushings or bearings, up close and personal on the work bench, so I'll stick with 24:1 mix. You want loud? Put the Big Twin and the RD-19E on the transom together...that's not loud, that's the sweet purr of OMC twins at 3/4 throttle.

 

[cougar1985]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

you guys dont even know what loud is,lol.pull the rear plug(exhaust) on the 39 speeditwin and oboy!as for the oil each to their own i quess,but it does remind me of a fellow that cursed me out for suggesting you could use a ratio of 50:1 in a 1970 12.3 ski-doo,said i was a fool and didnt have a clue!my only reply was, gee, i quess ive been doing it wrong for the last 10 years!

 

[ryendube]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

my motor wont start at the richer mixes... well atleast not easily. 50;1 it fires right up 24 :1 i just crank and crank. coils/wires etc are newish (3years)

 

[1946Zephyr]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

well, as I have learned, the '57 35hp is all needle bearing. I would feel safe about running it thinner than 24:1 but I wouldn't go as far as 50:1. I was told by well seasoned outboarders and techs that the pistons in the older engines really weren't designed to run at 50:1 but if you can keep the engine from getting hot, you can get away with it. Newer engines, after 1970 had pistons made froma different alloy which allowed you to run 50:1 more safely.

As far as "quiet" goes, the "Super Quiet" shrouding actually came out in 1958 in the Super Seahorse 35 and the single wall motorleg was discontinued. This same shrouding was in production clear up into the late 1960's with the 40hp motors. I personally had a nice motor I built, which was a 1959 Johnson Super Seahorse 35hp with a 1968 Evinrude Lark 40hp powerhead.

 

[tmcalavy]

Re: 1957 evinrude 35hp lark

And the styling changed completely when they went to the superquiet shrouding in 58...not as sharp to some eyes, but still good running motors.