1957 Johnson 5.5 sea horse Pictures added!!

Johnrude122

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I inherited this engine from my grandad. He has had it sitting in his garage for 30 years. The engine still turns fine. I guess what I need to know is what I need to do next. I have pulled the carb off and cleaned it. I pulled the plugs looked in the cylinder and saw rust. So I pulled the head off cleaned out the rust and oiled the cylinders and pulled the cord a few times to work the oil into the seals. I ran out of time and had to hang with the girlfriend. What do I do next. Thanks
 

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Re: 1957 Johnson 5.5 sea horse

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Check out the Awakening a Sleeping Outboard thread in the Engine FAQ section of this site/forum. It'll walk you through it step by step.
 

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had to hang with the girlfriend. What do I do next.

Wrong forum.

Sorry, I couldn't help myself!!
 

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If you really like the girl, see if she'll hand you wrenches while you work on the motor. The length of time she stays with you while bored out of her mind before she hits the door will let you know if she's a keeper or not. ;)

I'd borrow a compression tester and see what it is before I'd go too far with new parts and such. Or you can buy one at O'Reilly's for 20 bucks.
good luck, those are awesome motors,
JBJ
 

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If you really like the girl, see if she'll hand you wrenches while you work on the motor. The length of time she stays with you while bored out of her mind before she hits the door will let you know if she's a keeper or not. ;) JBJ

Dang, is that what makes a keeper? After all these years and now I finally know...!
 

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Just a good indicator, Steve. One should also test the cooking skills and such. I'm thinking of writing a "She's a keeper" guide and publishing it after I get rid of my "starter wife" in a few years and test my theories out on my next one.;) Just kidding, I prefer old, reliable, fully-tested women and motors!:D
JBJ

Back to the motor-----if the rust hasn't killed the cylinders, your motor is probably fine. THose 5.5's were almost indestructable from what I hear. My uncle had one and used it regularly, often 5 or 6 days a week for probably 30 years before he decided he'd get a new 9.9 johnson. :)
 

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Re: 1957 Johnson 5.5 sea horse

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One question i have is where can i get one of the double tube gas lines. NAd what kind of price am i looking at, not that im that worried because i think gramps would help me out. My grandad said the old gas tank and gas line rusted and rotted out. I think that is the first thing i need to do once i rebuild it and try to crank it. Once i get it cranked (hopefully) where should i look to get an impeller. also need to get new seals for just about everything. Should i just get some of the liquid slime stuff that they sell in AutoZone tomake new seals or what.
 

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There are usually a selection of used tanks on EBay. You might try Twin City Outboards or Sea-Way Marine, as well.
 

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Here's what I do when I get a "new" one.
#1 . check compression-- if only to get a baseline measurement to compare later.
#2. Pull the flywheel (10$ harmonic balancer puller from o'reillys auto parts) and check(in your case---replace) the coils, condensers, and points.
#3. Rebuild the carb. --in your case, you'll have a cork float and you want to get the kit that comes with a new PLASTIC float
#4. Replace the water pump impeller. Most experts recommend replacing the whole water pump housing and impeller.
#5. Reseal the lower unit if the lower unit oil doesn't look good. It probably won't.

There's no need to rebuild the whole motor if it doesn't need it. Replacing parts that aren't worn out or bad won't make it run any better.

Except for the head gasket, I use the old gaskets to trace out new ones in felpro black gasket paper that I get at the auto parts store. I like 1/16 thickness. I don't use liquid gasket sealer on anything except the lower unit halves and you supposedly don't need it there with new seals.
Changing the lower unit seals is the most annoying job but not that bad. Just ask questions when you run into something you don't know how to do like changing the shift shaft seal or getting out the old prop and drive shaft seals. If you don't have at least 65 lbs. of compression you might think about a used powerhead. But compression gauges are often wrong so if it seems low, don't trust it. ALso, usually when compression is bad one cylinder will be a lot lower than the other. IF they're even, a lot of times the comp. is o.k., it's just the gauge or the gauger is wrong. DOn't forget the "awakening a sleeping outboard" thread in the FAQ's forum.
GOod luck,
JBJ​
 

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Re: 1957 Johnson 5.5 sea horse

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i was taking off the head and rung of one of the bolts. I have since removed the bolt without damaging the engine at all. What is the best way to find a replacement.
 

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i was taking off the head and rung of one of the bolts. I have since removed the bolt without damaging the engine at all. What is the best way to find a replacement.

That's good you got it out. I'm pretty sure it's a standard 5/16" bolt. But someone will know for sure. I cant imagine it will be hard to find.
 

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any ideas on finding a replacement bolt guys. Hardware store or what. Am i right in guessing I need a stainless bolt. I live on the salt water so i believe it is a must. Also i am having trouble finding a carb kit with a float. if anyone knows where to get one please let me know.
thanks
 

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Most likely it is not a standard bolt. OMC loved to use odd lengths such as 1 7/8". Or odd lengths of the unthreaded portion. That said, you can probably find a suitable substitute at a local hardware store that will work by adding some washers or something.

As an old salt water mechanic for many years, I can tell you that a stainless bolt will sieze in there worse than a steel one. Dis-similar metals, y'know. And twist a stainless off and it is harder to drill out.

Carb kits are available right here at iboats. Go to the Marine store at the top of the page.
 

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i have looked there but i have the old cork float and need a plastic one.
 

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If you are looking for a plastic float, you have to go to a dealer. The part number for the cork one was 375919. When they look that one up they will find the cross reference for the new one. Probably the closest you will find for a kit is the 6hp one. It will have the plastic float, but not enough needle packings (they were fixed high speed jet). That kit was part # 383052...probably also changed by now.
 

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is it possible to drill out the jets in the carb to gain a little horsepower. Ive heard of people doing this on other carbs and was just wondering if it is feasible on the 5.5 johnson and if it would make much difference.
 

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No drilling out jets won't help. You'll likely end up killing progress, because you can't drill out the jets in these. You may be better off by just getting a bigger motor.:cool:
 

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Re: 1957 Johnson 5.5 sea horse New Question???

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I was taking off the propeller yesterday to remove the fishing line from the shaft, and the rubber tip that holds the shear pin in was basically dry rotten. Where can I get a new one or is there a more modern day solution to this problem. Can you help me. Please
 

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Re: 1957 Johnson 5.5 sea horse New Question???

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Any ideas guys?????????
 
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