1958 Johnson 10hp

[samo_ott]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

That manual would work but it's not the best. It's a general one covering many many models in 1 book. It's probably a Seloc. I have the same one and it is of limited use. If you are serious about getting the engine going and maintaining it get the OEM reproduction manual. They are available here from iBoats. click on the link above. But they are not nearly as cheap as the generic manuals.

 

[gclay9999]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

Sooo, I just re-checked the serial # on the motor, I should have looked at it upright in the first place, it's QD-16 not 19. so that's a 55 right. i know i'm a dumb*****.

 

[Sea18Horse]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

Yeah that would make it a '55. That's really fortunate in my opinion! After '57 they went to a smaller lighter duty LU from the 7.5. Instead of the one that's almost identical to the 18.

So yours is Seahorse green with cream trim eh? That's my second favorite color scheme. After Holiday bronze of course!

Cheers...............Todd

 

[gclay9999]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

I'm going to paint it cherry red with white trim. There's a chunk of metal missing by the prop, guess it's a fin? I'll cut it down and match the other side. I gotta stop checking #'s after a few beers especially upside down I'm just glad it don't take a battery.

 

[wbeaton]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

It breaks my heart to hear you are going to paint it red. You should have told me you no longer needed the QD-19 parts manual since I just sent it. Lots of changes were made between 1955 and 1958. I'll send you the proper manual.

 

[gclay9999]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

I saw a couple pics of one painted red, looked real nice. a dark cherry red, almost blood red. I'll still take that manual off your hands any reference material I can get is cool. I'm going to strip it down on sat and do a clean, it's all full of old oil and gunk. I hope the can my father-in-law has is a pressure can, it's got a squeeze pump on the hose, i'd like to give it a test once it's cleared. Other than manuals $40+ the only thing i can find are those ebay things, my library only goes from 58 up for theirs. Ahh well, a steep learning curve.

 

[gclay9999]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

Just checked my email, thanks a ton man. With that I can put back what i take out Just for that I might go green.

 

[jbjennings]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

If your father-in-law's tank has a hose with a primer bulb in it then it's not a pressure tank. Also, I can tell you from experience that you would be wise to get it in top running condition and test it several times before you decide to paint it. If you work on it, you WILL scratch the paint. And it HURTS to see it scratched after all the work. Here's a pic of what it looks like in original green.
And here's a '56 10hp in original red with a freshly buffed bronze speed prop. I like both colors but green sure is nice! You can also see what a pressure tank looks like in the pic, although the one shown is the rarer "suitcase" tank.
Good luck,
JBJ

 

[Sea18Horse]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

gclay9999 wrote;

"I saw a couple pics of one painted red, looked real nice. a dark cherry red, almost blood red."

Sounds like you might be describing holiday bronze. '57 and '58 in particular are really more red than bronze.

Take a look at some of the painted motors over at nymarine before you decide. The green ones are beautiful too. Also look into the customer painted ones. I believe both jbjennings and wbeaton have examples featured there.

Edit: oops looks like jbjennings already posted some :redface: .

North York marine home page

Cheers.................Todd

 

[gclay9999]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

Yeah I like the red, but I also do some airbrushing and might do some design on it, maybe tribal. Are any of the tanks on the site pressure tanks? If not where can i get one, a small one, something the kids can give me for xmas or something.

 

[jbjennings]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

Well, they don't make new pressure tanks anymore. The best bet is ebay (they go pretty high, between 50 to 100 bucks for a really nice one) or place a free ad on aomci.org.
JBJ

 

[Trevor Thomas]

Re: 1958 Johnson Seahorse 10

Re: 1958 Johnson Seahorse 10

I have a 1958 Johnson Seahorse 10 - QD 19 Outboard. Where can I obtain a rear control plate panel (Where the chock & mixture controls come through) as mine was missing when I brought the motor. Or has anyone got one on their outboard, who could do me a clear photo of the markings, so I could make one.
Trevor Thomas

 

[freddyray21]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

There's a chunk of metal missing by the prop, guess it's a fin? I'll cut it down and match the other side.

Don't cut it down take it to a prop shop and have them fix it. Or a good aluminum welder. That sounds like the cavitation plate and needs to be there.

 

[cc67]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

Here is my QD-19. It's my favorite "pond" motor. Sealing the lower unit was a pain but it has turned out to be one of my most reliable motors. It pushes me and my overweight brother in-law around purdy good in my 14' er

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[Summit02]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

Hello all I'm new here and doing some research on a motor I just bought. On the plate it is says Model QD19 Serial number 270596. So what I have found is that it should be a 1958 10hp Johnson. The cover on the motor is an Evinrude Fisherman. I'm not sure what to make of that. I look at the picture above and my motor does not have the primer bulb. It has three knobs in front high speed, low speed and a pull out choke. Do you think this is a 58 Johnson or somthing else? I'm tring to find a manual because I need to change the impeller and the lower end had water in it. Any help would be apreciated.

 

[jbjennings]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

Summit.....welcome to iboats!

So you'll get more answers.......you should start your own thread.

Here's my guess about your motor:

Since the cover says an evinrude "fisherman", I believe your motor is a 5.5hp and the model number is a CD-19, not a QD-19. A QD-19 is a '58 10hp motor and a fisherman cover should not fit on it as far as I know.
An evinrude is a "fisherman", not a johnson. A qd is a johnson.

Do this: look at the midsection on the starboard side and see if there's a little oval cover about 2" long with 2 screws in it. If so, it's likely a QD model and that is the shift shaft coupling cover. If it's red and white, it's a '58 johnson. IF it's blue, it's an evinrude.

If you have a CD-19, you'll have to pull the powerhead to remove the shift shaft so you can drop the lower unit. It sounds like a big deal but it's not, you just take off the fuel lines and knobs on front and remove the screws that hold the powerhead on and it will come off as an assembly. Oh, yeah, don't forget the throttle/armature linkage on the port side, and the shifter on the starboard side. Don't lose any of the lower crankshaft seal parts from above the top of the drive shaft when you pull the powerhead and that seal should be replaced since it's cheap. Order yourself one when you order the impeller.
You should get an OMC manual. DOn't waste your time on the other stuff---I hear it's worthless.
Hope this helps.....post a pic of your motor if you can!
JBJ

 

[Summit02]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

Well thanks for the info. That makes alot more sense. It is blue and white and when I bought it the guy said it was a 5hp. It seemed to small for a 10hp. I guess I'll go get my eyes checked. Thanks I'll take a look tonight and see if I can get a pic. Thanks again.

 

[Redknot]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

I have a few pressure tanks for my old evinrude, both 4 and 6 gals. I can part with one...It will need new paint, but holds presure...Send me a pm...Jim

 

[Summit02]

Re: 1958 Johnson 10hp

Well I got all things right now. The motor was not pumping water so I thought it was the impeller. Any way it wasn't and turned out to be the thermistat. Learned how to take it all apart and stuff so that was neat. Again thanks for the help with the indentification.