1959 35hp Evinrude Lark - ignition wiring question

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Re: 1959 35hp Evinrude Lark - ignition wiring question

I cannot see the damage to tell you the truth, but knew from your description what happened. If it is just the size of the key going through, likely fine. You could patch it with JB Weld if you really want.

I had a few extra housings at one time, Ill look through my parts boxes for you.
 

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that's the closed bow runabout I think -- nice boat. Opinions: think you shouldn't give up yet. Cleaning terminals, rewiring to the extent needed, maybe replace key switch (but seems unlikely), maybe solenoid. Don't mess with generator. The driveshaft may just be stuck, and you can work it out if you struggle with it a little more -- probably just stubborn. See what the lower unit oil looks like, and let it thoroughly drain. Driveshaft seals are pretty easy if needed.

I'm going to try to free it tomorrow, I think the switch is ok, not so sure about the solenoid. The boat is open bow, I replaced the deck and foam, now to get it ready to fish this spring!

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Re: 1959 35hp Evinrude Lark - ignition wiring question

I cannot see the damage to tell you the truth, but knew from your description what happened. If it is just the size of the key going through, likely fine. You could patch it with JB Weld if you really want.

I had a few extra housings at one time, Ill look through my parts boxes for you.

Thanks! It does't look like it'll be a problem after it's all together, but if you have one I'd be interested, assuming I can get the driveshaft out and the motor is worth saving.
 

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Very nice! Think you need a couple more period motors to switch in and out (suppose you should finish this one first, though).

but keep your eyes open for another one or three...
 

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To test the solenoid.

Hook your continuity meter between the 2 large posts. Now run leads from a 12volt battery to the 2 small posts.

You should hear an audible click, and the meter should show continuity. If not, it is shot.
 

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To test the solenoid.

Hook your continuity meter between the 2 large posts. Now run leads from a 12volt battery to the 2 small posts.

You should hear an audible click, and the meter should show continuity. If not, it is shot.

So I should hook the pos and neg to the small terminals? Does it matter which one goes where?
 

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Re: 1959 35hp Evinrude Lark - ignition wiring question

Very nice! Think you need a couple more period motors to switch in and out (suppose you should finish this one first, though).

but keep your eyes open for another one or three...

Thanks! I'm really hoping to get this one running, it's got super clean cylinder walls and good compression, all parts accounted for and it's a 50th anniversary engine..according to what I've seen. I'd love to get it running and keep it running, and of course catch lots of fish with it.
 

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So I should hook the pos and neg to the small terminals? Does it matter which one goes where?

Nope. Then just listen for the click, and look for continuity on the meter.
 

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Re: 1959 35hp Evinrude Lark - ignition wiring question

To test the solenoid.

Hook your continuity meter between the 2 large posts. Now run leads from a 12volt battery to the 2 small posts.

You should hear an audible click, and the meter should show continuity. If not, it is shot.

I hooked the solenoid to the battery like you said, it made an audible click, the meter set to continuity, started off at 0.0, but after a few seconds started to rise...is that normal or should it stay at 0?
 

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Success! Got the drive shaft out, soaked it in PB blaster for an hour and it came out without too much fuss.

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Great Success as Borat would say!

Don't forget to change that o ring and grease the splines before re assembling it.
 

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I hooked the solenoid to the battery like you said, it made an audible click, the meter set to continuity, started off at 0.0, but after a few seconds started to rise...is that normal or should it stay at 0?

Should stay at zero ohms, but I wouldn't worry about it just yet. You are testing it at extremely low amps. In actual use, there will be many amps flowing through it, which will burn through any minor corrosion that may be on the contacts. They actually are very reliable, and most solenoid problems actually are something else.
 

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Great Success as Borat would say!

Don't forget to change that o ring and grease the splines before re assembling it.


Thank you! And thanks for the links in your signature, I've been reading them and they are very helpful. Earlier you mentioned I should replace all the fuel lines, is that something I can get at any auto parts store or do I need to something different?

Also, I put the driveshaft in the gear case and spun it, the prop has a lot of slack in it before it engages one way or the other, is that normal? Should I pull apart the lower gear case and inspect? The oil that was in there was milky and there wasn't much of it, no noticeable meta shavings in there.
 

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Yeah just buy it by the foot from you local auto parts store. The new stuff is ethanol proof.

There will be slack before it engages, very normal.
 

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Re: 1959 35hp Evinrude Lark - ignition wiring question

Yeah just buy it by the foot from you local auto parts store. The new stuff is ethanol proof.

There will be slack before it engages, very normal.


Ok, thanks for the help. I'm making my parts list now, please correct me if wrong, but from what I have gathered: smooth cylinder walls, good compression, starter works, solenoid seems to work, key switch seems to work. The impeller and all the oil seals will be replaced, new fuel lines, clean the carb and the fuel pump, new plugs. Any carb and/or fuel pump parts that I should always replace? I'm going to re-read the carb tutorial, but if you know of anything specific to this engine I'd appreciate any "heads-up" for the next few steps. Also, should I check the coils/plugs? I saw something about that on your links. Is there anything else to watch out for before test starting - I do plan on using a trash can full of water, no muffs.
 

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Re: 1959 35hp Evinrude Lark - ignition wiring question

Pull off the recoil, 3 screws.

Then there should be a small oval window screwed onto the flywheel. Remove it and peek in at the ignition. Removing the plugs will help you rotate it to inspect everything. If the coils are all cracked, they will need to be replaced. If they are not cracked, they have already been done.

Have you tested for spark?
 

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For the carb, I sort of do what needs done when it is apart. I always do the packing in the needles. New boss gasket on the nozzle. The rest is change as needed.
 

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Re: 1959 35hp Evinrude Lark - ignition wiring question

Pull off the recoil, 3 screws.

Then there should be a small oval window screwed onto the flywheel. Remove it and peek in at the ignition. Removing the plugs will help you rotate it to inspect everything. If the coils are all cracked, they will need to be replaced. If they are not cracked, they have already been done.

Have you tested for spark?

No I have not tested for spark, I'll check the coils tomorrow, will update. Thanks for the input.
 

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Re: 1959 35hp Evinrude Lark - ignition wiring question

I got all the parts I need to rebuild the water pump. One question before I start, earlier it was mentioned I'd need some 3m 847 or gasket sealer, where do I use that? Do the oil seals needs it? I know to put marine grease on the drive shaft, both ends I'd assume? or just the top since the lower is lubricated with gear oil?

Thanks!
 
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