1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

1957evinrude

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Ok I just redid the head gasket because I am getting water in my lower cylinder. Well as I was running it today and found that there is alot of water around the carb. Where the carb meets the motor the gasket looks milky, also where it meets there is alot of condensation there. I would think water shouldnt even be there. This motor has not seen rain since ive had it so i know it didnt get wet. Could I be getting water into my bottom cyclinder straight from the carb? If so how do i Fix this?
 

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Re: 1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

heres more pics
 

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Re: 1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

Could there be water in your tank or lines? Sounds like the carb gasket needs to be replaced.
 

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Re: 1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

i just rebuilt the whole carb cause it was having a hard time to start. no water at all in fuel too a sample and nothing. should there be water passing thru the reed housing?
 

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Re: 1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

Water in and around the carb and reed/intake is not normal. Maybe FR or J Reeves will chime in...they may know.
 

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Re: 1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

ok i hope they do because this is driving me nuts
 

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Re: 1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

can anyone help me with this. has anyone ever even seen this happen
 

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Could be awhile...you can send them a PM by clicking on their username in other posts.
 

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Re: 1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

Have you run this motor with the cover off, to see where the water is coming from? I have seen condensation form in the carb in extremely humid conditions, but nothing too extreme.
 

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Could be awhile...you can send them a PM by clicking on their username in other posts.

Now if you get answer outside of this thread, please post an update...now you've got me curious.
 

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Re: 1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

Relax. Unless there is an obvious leak somewhere, spraying obvious water around, I would say it is nothing more than condensation. The intake manifold area of an engine gets cold for the same reason that an air conditioner gets cold. In warm humid air that cold metal sweats for the same reason that a glass of ice tea sweats. Old car carburetors would actually freeze ice under certain conditions. Icing on old airplane carburetors was a major concern. Anybody around here remember that far back? Dang, I'm getting old.

But all this has nothing to do with water in the cylinder. That is a different topic.

And the goop running out the drain hole in the lower unit is normal. There should be dozens of threads here on that subject, if you care to do a search.
 

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Re: 1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

Yeah the cover was off cause I just did the head gasket and I was making sure that it wasnt leaking. Well my house runs on a well and after a few mins very cold water comes out of it. Thats probably why I was getting that much condensation on that plate theres cold water running thru it, just like having a cup of ice water. I hope I have to just replace all the gaskets on the motor and that the block aint cracked. But I dont wanna waste money on gaskets if someone knows its not that I dont have very much money so I like to make sure im not wasting it on the wrong thing.
 

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Re: 1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

Look before I put this on here i searched and search and searched ive learned alot from reading the post so dont tell me if i care i do care and i do read alot of posts on here before i ask questions. You can also see on here that i have not said one word about that cause im pretty sure its the over spill from having water in the cylinder.
 

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FR btw thank you for your help I am going to take your word for it because i dont know why its doing it so really thank you.
 

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FR btw thank you for your help I am going to take your word for it because i dont know why its doing it so really thank you.

I sort of got the impression that you don't want any more comments from me, but just in the off chance that you do, here is where the stuff is coming from that you showed running out the drain hole. After all, you did post the picture, so I assume that was a question.

1. You put oil in the gas. Every drop of that oil goes through the engine. Some of it is burned (smoke) and the rest goes out the exhaust. The exhaust is cooled by water that is mixed with it after it leaves the cylinders. The result is emulsified, gray foamy mixture of water and oil. Normally it just goes out the main exhaust outlet.

2. It is the nature of two-strokes and especially the old engines such as you have that the fuel and air slows down as it passes through the crankcase. The fuel and oil tends to settle out of the air stream at slow speeds, sort of like falling rain. That settled-out fuel puddles up in the bottom of the crankcase, causing idle and accleration problems. So, back in those days, they used crankcase drain valves to bleed off that puddled fuel. The drain valves simply dumped into the exhaust housing and from there it went out with the stuff mentioned in #1.

All that stuff went out the exhaust into the water and nobody gave it a second thought in 1959. But this is 2009 and people today see it and freak out. Then they post a question on this forum. They either ask about the drain holes or they ask about the scum on the surface of the water when running it in a tank. The question is asked so often that I usually don't even bother taking time to reply any more.
 

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Re: 1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

Thats what I kinda figured out of it. Im going to try today and see if I can hit the head a little and see if its really off a little somewhere. I ran it on muffs about 5 mins ago. It runs some what good for about 5 mins, then Im thinking the t stat is opening up and Im getting alot of water into that bottom cyclinder, and its cutting the motor off. Well Im going to take it all apart AGAIN LOL. Ill keep posting on this to maybe Ill come across something and someone will know what it is. btw everyone thank you for posting.
 

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Ok did a compression test you all ready to be puzzled cause i am. Remember that the bottom cyclinder is the one taking on water and the top is the one firing. ok top cyclinder "good one" 65 and bottom one with water intake 116 whats the deal with that i thought it was going to be the other way around. I did both of them the same choke off and other spark plug out. Can this motor be saved or should i try and get another block for it?
 

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Re: 1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

what im going to do before trying to break it down is do a decarb once i get no more water in the cylinder.
 

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Re: 1959 evinrude 35hp water around carb have pics

I'm not real familiar with that motor, but does it have a water cooled exhaust cover? I'm thinking maybe the inner exhaust cover is leaking....
 
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