1961 Chris Craft Roamer Restoration by a 21 year old

Spivy30

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Re: 1961 Chris Craft Roamer Restoration by a 21 year old

Well said when I was 21 I would have dove in head first and did at 53 I think OMG and yell Mommy I don't want to go to school LOL

When I see the boat I have the erge to run the other way
 

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Re: 1961 Chris Craft Roamer Restoration by a 21 year old

I'm already thinking I might name the boat "One Step At A Time"
 

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Very cool project. I'll be watching.
 

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Re: 1961 Chris Craft Roamer Restoration by a 21 year old

If it takes you a few years you're gonna need to update the title of this thread:p

I love the helm, very nice classic look with the black faced gauges. The bow rail gives it a nice look as well:)

More pictures needed, that cabin is HUGE! I know nothing about steel boats but it seems like this rig can be brought back to life if you stick with it and have some cash to spend.
 

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Re: 1961 Chris Craft Roamer Restoration by a 21 year old

I'm going to follow this thread with great interest.

A friend of mine just bought a 46 foot roamer (your 31 is one of the smaller ones) that has twin diesels, a generator, and lots of accessories.

With the way these boats were built, they've lasted for a very long time, and they're some of the cheapest "big" boats you can get today. Plus they're quality boats. Restore her, take care of her, and you'll have her for a long time.

I've been welding myself for about 4 years, TIG and MIG, and I'd just about trust myself to do repairs on that hull. Maybe. It's steel, right? My friend's 46 is aluminum.

A note on power: These boats, especially the steel hulls, were made as displacement hulls that looked fast, but really their hull speed in a 31 foot length is about 7-8 knots.

You can make a brick plane if you put a big enough engine on it, but if you equip this boat with one or two small diesels you'll get incredible range on it and cheap operating costs. It should only take about a 100hp to run her up to hull speed. Put a pair of 350s in it and you'll still be going less than 10 knots most of the time... it'll just cost a lot more, and it might not be enough to get you on plane and keep you there anyway.

Erik
 

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Re: 1961 Chris Craft Roamer Restoration by a 21 year old

Outstanding! I'm so glad to see a Roamer in here. I love that design. In fact there was one on the yard where I kept my Revelier for awhile.

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Roamers are a really beautiful design. If owned it I would go with as much a factory restoration as I could muster. Aside from maybe propulsion, everything factory. Really nice. Take your time and it will make a true heirloom.

Welding is not rocket science but it does take practice and knowledge to get right. I advise you get a good mig/tig setup to learn on. It will cost you, but the expense is worth it. There is a reason they are so expensive. If you hire it done find a guy who is qualified to do thin materials. There are tons of guys who do structural work. It is most likely the bulk of their business. You would do better to inquire with autobody custom shops if you want the welding to work and look good. Again, you are going to pay for it, but stay away from guys looking for work who are used to putting buildings together, not boats.

I am stoked about your project. Very nice boat.
Nostalgia is my thing.

enjoy
drewp
 

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You can make a brick plane if you put a big enough engine on it, but if you equip this boat with one or two small diesels you'll get incredible range on it and cheap operating costs.
Erik

+1 on that idea. I got my first diesel pickup a few years back - '01 f250 with the old 7.3 International. I would go diesel in a heartbeat if it is in your budget.

As for the hull damage, the rust appears to be on the inside of the hull. Are you sure she's rusted through? If not, the repairs may not be that bad. Also, looking at the picture of the helm it almost appears as though the deck was holding water for some time. Did she sink at some point?
 

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Re: 1961 Chris Craft Roamer Restoration by a 21 year old

This may be a dumb idea but would it be possible to lay on a couple of layers of Biax with epoxy on the inside over any suspected weak areas? (I mean after doing the best possible welding patch). Would the epoxy/biax adhere to the steel? I'm just thinking that would give you a little structural redundancy, which can be a good thing.
 

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Re: 1961 Chris Craft Roamer Restoration by a 21 year old

If it takes you a few years you're gonna need to update the title of this thread:p=QUOTE]

Hopefully is doesnt turn into 21 year later...Chris Craft resto still not complete or 1961 Chris Craft Roamer Restoration by 41 year old
 

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As far as fixing the hull I dont think its that bad I think most of the damage was from water sitting in the bilge. I just want to fix it right if i'm going to do it so I would like to replace all the bad metal. I'll have to research what to coat the bilge with but it doesnt sound like a bad idea.

As far as repowering i'm going to see how it goes with the orginal engines. They run good and were recently built. Down the road id like to put something like 310 or 330 cummings in it...maybe thats over kill.
 

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dsiekman;2942465 As for the hull damage said:
I couldnt find any sighs of the boat being sunk. It was kept on the boat lift its entire life and was normally covered.
 

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Well i'm having it sand blasted last this week/weekend then a welder is going to come look at it.

Next time I get over there I will take some pictures of the cabin.
 

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That's a super cool boat you've got there. The welder may just be able to weld some plate steel over the problem areas after sandblasting to built it back up on the thin spots.

You could coat with por-15 after and never have to touch those areas again.

Take your time and save up for each important step and you'll really have something there.
 

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Re: 1961 Chris Craft Roamer Restoration by a 21 year old

As far as fixing the hull I dont think its that bad I think most of the damage was from water sitting in the bilge. I just want to fix it right if i'm going to do it so I would like to replace all the bad metal. I'll have to research what to coat the bilge with but it doesnt sound like a bad idea.
Sandblast it clean then check the thickness remaining. If it's too thin in places, cut out a square patch and use an english wheel or sandbags with dollies to form a patch to fit. Weld in place and sand flush. Steel is very, very repairable.
Spivy30 said:
As far as repowering i'm going to see how it goes with the orginal engines. They run good and were recently built. Down the road id like to put something like 310 or 330 cummings in it...maybe thats over kill.

Depends on what you're trying for. It's a displacement hull, IE it won't really plane (it will with something like 1000 horsepower, but even then it would be nearly uncontrollable). It has to do with the hull shape and weight.

Basically, unless a boat can plane, its speed is limited by a ratio of its beam to length and its hull shape. For your hull you can use the standard displacement formulas, a calculator for it is here, along with a pretty decent explanation of the formula:

http://www.solarnavigator.net/hull_speed.htm

On the bright side, to get the full displacement speed you don't need much power at all. The rough explanation here covers something of why:

http://everything2.com/title/hull+speed

Bottom line, unless you eventually put in a big enough engine to plane the boat (thus making it uncontrollable due to hull shape) then all having an engine bigger than the size needed for hull speed (42 hp by my math) does for you is uses more fuel and in some circumstances gets you an extra knot or two. It also gets you up to your full displacement speed faster (gives you faster acceleration). On the flip side, a small engine gets you really good fuel economy and corresponding range.

Now you know why the really big seagoing ships don't plane, and why they can go fast anyway... they're really long.

Don't think that a boat that goes 7-8 knots is bad.. a smaller engine means you can go 7-8 knots all day long to get where you're going, and it will cost you less in fuel than the planing boats use in an hour.

Erik
 

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Re: 1961 Chris Craft Roamer Restoration by a 21 year old

I'm not interested in making the boat go fast thats what my starcraft is for.
I just want to relax on it and look good while crusing down the river and in the harbor
 

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Re: 1961 Chris Craft Roamer Restoration by a 21 year old

I just want to say thanks to everyone who has helped me so far on figuring out what I need to start with when repairing the hull and protecting it once its fixed.

I'm starting to feel better about this undertaking.
 

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Re: 1961 Chris Craft Roamer Restoration by a 21 year old

Well how's she coming inquiring minds want to know.:D
 
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