1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

SteveMFG_Oxford

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Nov 22, 2011
Messages
207
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Well the boat work has come to a halt. It was 10 degrees here (PA) overnight and only about 35 in my garage. Too cold to do much so the tools went away, the boat went outside with a cover on it and now my truck will no longer be frosted over in the morning.

When things warm up some I'll get back to work! Most of the repair work is over and only paint prep and paint are left to do. Then reassembly of the various parts.

How many days till Spring??

Running.jpg
 

sphelps

Supreme Mariner
Joined
Nov 16, 2011
Messages
11,475
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Sorry about the cold temps Steve . Great idea on the seat box vents that should make em last longer !
 

Jon Sob

Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Jun 11, 2011
Messages
827
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Hey Steve ..... I am just across the PA line in Ohio and I have the same problem with the cold. Mine is covered up and out back for now.
IMG_0037.jpg
 

SteveMFG_Oxford

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Nov 22, 2011
Messages
207
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Well at least I got quite a bit done before the real cold weather hit. I'm taking this time to ponder the remaining work and to slowly gather my thoughts, the parts, nuts & bolts, cables and so on.

Hopefully when it warms up things will progress quickly and I'll be on the water for prop tests and then on to enjoying my "new" toy.

Here she rests in the backyard while awaiting warmer weather. The red on the bow is just automotive glazing compound to level out some small gouges.

_DSC3217.jpg
 

Mark_VTfisherman

Lieutenant
Joined
Nov 29, 2008
Messages
1,489
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

...The red on the bow is just automotive glazing compound to level out some small gouges.

I used marinetex to adhere a 40" piece of 3/16"x1" aluminum I bent to my prow so I could beach it without repairing the area once or twice a season. Sealed the edges and the one screw pretty thoroughly with 5200. Three years now and even the concrete ramps haven't hurt it. Wished I had learned faster and done that years ago. I would suggest that to you, to. BTW- auto body glaze does a nice job until it gets scratched. The it absorbs moisture and gets soft. I was using the martin senour auto body glaze - looked great until moisture got to it.
 

Jon Sob

Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Jun 11, 2011
Messages
827
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

I used marinetex to adhere a 40" piece of 3/16"x1" aluminum I bent to my prow so I could beach it without repairing the area once or twice a season. Sealed the edges and the one screw pretty thoroughly with 5200. Three years now and even the concrete ramps haven't hurt it. Wished I had learned faster and done that years ago. I would suggest that to you, to.

Hey Mark ...... got any photos of that.
 

SteveMFG_Oxford

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Nov 22, 2011
Messages
207
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Thanks Mark ... it's been rainy here. I'll go out and feel my glazing and see of it seems soft.

The aluminum sounds like a good idea. My boat already has an aluminum keel runner that begins at the bottom of the bow curve and runs to the stern. (There is a lot of ugly paint on it but I think it runs the full length.) The aluminum appears to be about 1/2 inch wide by about 1 inch high. Pretty solid hunk of metal. I have no idea how it is being held fast. Once the bottom paint is removed I'll have a better idea. I'm sure this is factory applied.

Does yours have an aluminum keel as well?
 

SteveMFG_Oxford

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Nov 22, 2011
Messages
207
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Here is a bit of info for anyone wanting to restore a bit of shine to their dull, gray, oxidized windshield frame. My frame was about as dull as it could get but otherwise in very good condition. I discovered a product called AUTOSOL for cleaning metal. It works especially well on aluminum. A small amount goes a long way. It returns aluminum to a nice bright shine. If you want to really go crazy and wet sand the frame with 2000 grit sandpaper, buff it and really put the work into it your aluminum can almost look like chrome! I got mine from the Eastwood Company here in PA.

I don't have a buffer. The results I got came from simple hand rubbing.

I also experimented with a Meguiar headlight restoration kit to remove some of the dull gray film from the windshield. It worked great. Used my corded electric drill to polish inside and out. So far I made 2 applications and the glass is very clear compared to when I started. If you have the same cloudy looking windshield, this is worth a try. Buy for $20 at Walmart.

Below you can see a bit of "before and after" and a photo of the kit I used to polish the windshield.

Headlight Kit.jpg WindshieldFR1.jpg WindshieldFR2.jpg
 

Mark_VTfisherman

Lieutenant
Joined
Nov 29, 2008
Messages
1,489
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

........My frame was about as dull as it could get but otherwise in very good condition. I discovered a product called AUTOSOL for cleaning metal. It works especially well on aluminum. A small amount goes a long way....almost look like chrome!....Meguiar headlight restoration kit to remove some of the dull gray film from the windshield. It worked great. Used my corded electric drill to polish inside and out. So far I made 2 applications and the glass is very clear compared to when I started. If you have the same cloudy looking windshield, this is worth a try. Buy for $20 at Walmart....

That AUTOSOL seems like an AWESOME product- never used it. I worked up to 600 wet-and-dry and finished with Mother's Mag & Aluminum polish- seems like the hard way compared to your photos. I mean- mine looks good, but I think I used a lot more elbow grease! It's been ten years and it is time for a refresh so maybe I will try that.

Headlight polish- that will probably do a good job.

If you find that you need more product than the headlight kit contains, Meguiars has "Mirror Glaze" and "professional" products that work well, are inexpensive (?!!!) and go a very long way. I used Meguiar's Professional Clear Plastic Polish 10 with a 100% cotton terry rag bound over a wool bonnet on a mandrel chucked into a 2700rpm drill. (you probably know this but for others: never use synthetic, cotton/poly blend and especially not wool on a plastic anything to polish. It gets the windshield too hot and melts the surface making a mess). I maintain it with Meguiars Professional Clear Plastic Cleaner

One bottle of polish will probably do five or six windshields, and I still have half a bottle of plastic cleaner from years ago.

On two other related notes for those who are not experienced at this kind of detailing: never use windex or any general-purpose cleaner like fantastic on your plastic windshield. The ammonia in these products can actually degrade the clarity of the plastic windshield. Second, do not use paper towels to clean your MFG/TaylorMade windshield. Instead, flood the windshield with water to flow away loose grit and follow with a very soft car-wash brush with a little bit of liquid dishwashing liquid in a pail of very warm water. Don't scrub hard, just keep dipping and "brush away" anything on the windshield. This will rid surface dirt and most stuck or embedded grit from the plastic without adding any scratches. Paper towels, scrub cloths, and sponges often grab grit and create scratches especially if you scrub hard. Once grime is safely removed, you can go to the plastic polish of your choice. A wash product that works better than dish soap is NXT Generation Car Wash which seems to float away removed grit extremely well and dry without water spots.

You make me want to start another boat project!
 

SteveMFG_Oxford

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Nov 22, 2011
Messages
207
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Mark ...you've got some very good tips there! Thanks!

Try the AUTOSOL. You'll be knocked over! The stuff is great! And if your frame is already smooth, in decent shape and clean ...wow!

I used it on my "new", 50 year old, slightly pitted, bow light and it did a nice job there too. Of course the pits are still there but it cleaned up nicely.

On the windshield frame I'd say 150% improvement. Yeah .. that much! On the chrome light, not so much ... 10 - 15% improvement. I also used AUTOSOL on an aluminum cleat and that too is now VERY shiny.

Obviously it will have a lesser effect on chrome, but it does work as a very good cleaner and as a prep for a good wax.

It's warming a bit here so the boat went back in the garage. Got some propane heat on and finished the rough sanding on the transom and applied a first coat of Petit EasyPoxy white undercoater. It's a nice sandable primer that works really well. A pleasure to use actually. Sands beautifully.

I also put some on the foredeck where I removed the original bow light and chocks to act as a light filler. The downside to the paint is it's stinky! If I ventilate ... I loose my heat! Boy, I can hardly wait to the hull bright white all over!

Below you can see me belt sanding along with the painted transom, foredeck and detail of one of my "arrowpoints". So glad these weren't missing!

Belt.jpg BowPrime.jpg First Prime.jpg Arrowpoint.jpg
 

Jon Sob

Master Chief Petty Officer
Joined
Jun 11, 2011
Messages
827
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Looking good Steve ..... that transom came out nice. Great job!
 

SteveMFG_Oxford

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Nov 22, 2011
Messages
207
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

What a Great Day!

It warmed to 52 degrees with some sunshine! I just had to go out and see if this baby leaks. So I popped on my 8 HP Nissan and headed for the lake.

The long and short of it .. everything went great. The 8 HP pushed it at about 10+ kts at 3/4 throttle. The lake had not quite a foot of chop and we motored right along. The ride was nice and smooth with no apparent leaks. We stayed out a half hour or so. Upwind in a 8 kt breeze was pretty COLD! Downwind was comfortable. If the windshield had been on it would have been more comfortable.

She Floats !!

Ready2Go.jpg She Floats.jpg DntheLake.jpg FromRear.jpg InteriorLake.jpg

I had to steer with the tiller and just sat on a cushion. Nothing is screwed fast in the cockpit yet. I just plopped the seat boxes in for the test run. You can see the interior above.

When I got home and disconnected, I set the tongue on the garage floor. About a 2 cups of water dripped at the bow and seemed to start there, not run from the back. Not sure what that's all about. All in all I'm satisfied I have no major leak issues and can continue on with the needed work.

Yep ... The transom is rock solid!
 

SteveMFG_Oxford

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Nov 22, 2011
Messages
207
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

OOPS A Duplicate! So I'll just add a couple more photos ... The first dunk too!

IntoSun.jpg Zooming.jpg Bow detail.jpg First Dunk.jpg


HOW ABOUT A PHOTOSHOP PAINT JOB? I'm thinking about a real sixties kind of color... This looks close to an original MFG color.
 

Attachments

  • P1060362ps.jpg
    P1060362ps.jpg
    137.6 KB · Views: 1
Last edited:

sphelps

Supreme Mariner
Joined
Nov 16, 2011
Messages
11,475
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Wow Steve, she sure looks nice tied up sittin in the glassy water! Thats a nice boat ramp there looks like ya had it all to yourself..:cool:
 

SteveMFG_Oxford

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Nov 22, 2011
Messages
207
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Hey thanks! Wait another 6 weeks, it's gonna look really good!

Yep .. I was the only nut out there boating on the whole 7 miles of lake! I just HAD to see if it leaked. Now I know I don't have to turn it upside down if I don't want to.
 

SteveMFG_Oxford

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Nov 22, 2011
Messages
207
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Another nice day here in PA so I am working on getting the bow faired up. Trying to fix the scrapes and dings and return the sweep of the strakes to the proper shape. Nothing like a bit of EasyPoxy undercoater to show off the flaws!

Brought it out for a bit of "sunbathing". The bright light helps to see all the imperfections. If my garage was brighter it would help!

I also got my replacement Stoltz keel rollers. The old rollers were 6" and I looked all over trying to find 6" replacements. No luck. I did find some in Australia! Seems they are common there. So I settled for 5" Stoltz RP-504 from Amazon and shimmed the brackets with 5/8" flat washers. Not the prettiest but it's functional! Now the boat will actually roll off instead of just sitting there on the trailer like it did on the old, flattened, 50 year old rollers.

_DSC3327_013.jpg _DSC3328_014.jpg _DSC3330_016.jpg
 

SteveMFG_Oxford

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Nov 22, 2011
Messages
207
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

As a sort of tribute to the old woody boats of yesteryear and to the at least "partly wood" heritage of the early MFGs, I am considering adding a bit of mahogany trim up on the bow.

Does anybody think any of this looks good? Or is it too much?

BowTrim1.jpg CleatPad.jpg Small PAD.jpg

Do you like the big strip under the light or just the small pad? Or none at all? Comments?
 

RMJ

Cadet
Joined
Jan 23, 2012
Messages
20
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

I prefer the smaller pad. I think is is cleaner looking. I really like the light and cleat too, Originals ?

Rick
 

sphelps

Supreme Mariner
Joined
Nov 16, 2011
Messages
11,475
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Theyall look good . The bigger pad on the first shot kinda gives it a little character un the white paint.
You Gunna leave the white cap ? Makes it look clean!
 

SteveMFG_Oxford

Petty Officer 1st Class
Joined
Nov 22, 2011
Messages
207
Re: 1961 MFG Oxford Deluxe - Beginning a New Life

Thanks for the comments!

Sadly, neither are original to the boat. They are period pieces though. The original bow light is in decent shape physically but sooo ugly. It is some cheap metal with a black plastic coating that's cracked and peeling. Same for the bow chocks. Just not pretty and I doubt they are chromeable.

The original cleat was a "twin" cleat that probably got broken. I can see the old screw holes in the deck. When I bought the boat it had a different cleat screwed half-assed over the old screws. I need the mahogany pad to hide the old eight screw holes!

I've always liked things that were a bit unique so I thought I'd try this. Not sure how it'll look on that blue/green paint ... guess I'll have to wait until it's painted to decide.

I really think the boat needs a splash of chrome up front. Bling ... if you know what I mean!

Below you can see an original unique "twin" cleat on two different boats (one an Oxford, the other a Niagara?), my original bow light and the cleat on deck when I bought my boat.

Bow Cleat.jpg 61 Oxford Bow Lite.jpg PROPER DUAL CLEAT.jpg 61 Oxford Deck Cleat.jpg

I'm afraid white on white will be too boring of a color scheme. The deck will be a light "happy" color. What I'm not sure yet. Maybe '57 Chevy Tropical Turquoise ??

Chevy Paint.jpg

At last I have learned how to embed an image into text!!


DSC_0098_050.jpg
 
Top