1962 21' starcraft

[KellyC]

Ok, I don't want to be a pest but have another question about another boat I found on CL. It is a 1962 21' starcraft at this post http://portland.craigslist.org/clc/boa/1941322196.html.
I have been told that there are a lot of starcraft lovers on this site and would like to know what people think of it and if it is a good deal. It is for sale by the original owners grandson, owners are still living it sounds like. Just wondering if it is worth getting and maybe fixing up. It seems like a good deal but it is to late for me to be calling someone about a boat and I have to work tomorrow and not sure if I will be able to contact them by phone before it is late again. I am going to contact them on Thursday to go and look at it if it is not sold by then.

Yea I am new to the boating scene, although I do have a 83 15' seanymph. Just looking for a bigger boat to use on the Columbia river and mine is a little shallow for my comfort. And if you are wondering why I have it, it is because my sis and her hubby were in a pinch and would not take money from me so they sold me thier boat since I was looking for one.

Thanks for all the input in advance.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

I moved this down to the SC forum where us fanatics hang out. That looks like a pretty good deal. It has a Mercruiser which you can still get parts and service for.

My only concerns are that I'm sure that boat hasn't seen the water in some time and probably has some maintenance to catch up on. If you're not going to do the work yourself, prepare to drop up to a grand getting the motor checked out, maybe a carb cleaning, drive removal and servicing and bellows replaced. Also the trailer may need some bearing and tire work to be road ready.

My buddy bought a similar rig last fall for around the same price with an outboard and we've had fun with it this year.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

That is a nice old Starcraft Islander, I would prefer outboard, but it sounds like that Merc is still running, and the price is not bad(have them run the motor on muffs or offer 1k).

If you are looking for something with high sides and a little cabin to stay dry that is a great rig. Shallow draft being a light boat is good for use in a river.

Good luck

 

[North Beach]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

Kelly,

First off, that's a 67 Islander, not a 62. It came stock with a 120 hp mercruiser (4 banger iron duke GM) and could easily be swapped out with anything up to a current 140 HP 4 banger without changing the outdrive.

Came with the white foam flotation so you wouldn't be mucking around with poured in place foam.

All in all, if you did have to do some resto work this would be one of the easier to do. This is the same hull/platform as the Liquid Limo, just a year later.

Based on what pugetsound has been showing us along the lines of boat costs in that area, this would be a good deal if you want to roll up your sleeves and work on it.

 

[KellyC]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

Well I have pretty much decided that if they still have the boat tomorrow that I am going to buy it unless the wife decides to do other wise, keeping fingers crossed. She will be asleep when I go anyway so she won't even notice me gone. I am not affraid of doing a lot of work myself even though I have not really worked on boats before. But I am a mechanical kind of guy so it should not really be an issue. Just kind of overwhelming to think of tearing the thing apart and have never done anything like that before. Kind of worried that I will start it and get in over my head with it. Don't know a dang thing about fiberglass if it needs to have any done, but then again am willing to learn. So are any of you going to try and talk me out of this and tell me it is to big a deal to do on my own with my little knowledge that I have? Figured that I could sell the trailer and recoup some of the money if it goes bad for me in the future. Anyway I will let you know what is going on when I find out myself.

 

[Huron Angler]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

Don't know a dang thing about fiberglass if it needs to have any done

You will fit right in here

That is an aluminum hull, so the only 'glass work would be on the deck if you chose to go that route. I used epoxy resin on my exterior plywood deck to waterproof it but didn't use any actual fiber.

Good luck with it, these tin cans are actually pretty easy to work on, I'm sure you will be pleasantly surprised to see once you tear into her.

 

[barato]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

NB, thanks for confirming that i'm not seeing things....i thought there's no way that's a 62 with that windshield.

Kelly, welcome to the asylum. hope you get the boat....looks nice. and even if you do drop a grand on fixes, where else you going to find that much boat for that $? or a 22' cabin cruiser which you can tow with a minivan? HA is right, these are much easier to work on than old fiberglass hulls....and the elder statesmen on this forum have already answered most every Q you or i will have about em.

 

[KellyC]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

The towing part is of no concern to me, have a 99 F350 powerstroke that pulls my friends boat(30 ft) with no problems. And am very glad to hear that there does not need to be glass installed unless I choose to do so, and preobably won't. Am getting kind of stoked just wish I could call him right now but work frowns on personal calls while here. So if I do manage to get this tin cup I am going to be hitting on you guys for all kinds of info.

 

[KellyC]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

Ok, another question. What kind of marine plywood would I get to do a floor in this boat if I get it? Still going to go and check it out tomorrow and just trying to get a game plan going if I am able to get it.

 

[zbadboy]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

You can use Marine plywood or exterior grade plywood from Menards, Home Depot, Lowes, etc... You can use 3/4 or 1/2 inch. Personally I would use 1/2 inch to keep the weight down.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

Personally I'd use 3/4" cuz I like a nice solid deck

 

[zbadboy]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

I agree 3/4 provides a more solid and beefy deck. What is the width between stringers on the SC boats? Is it different between models? When I say 1/2 inch I think it actually comes in 5/8's which is actually only 1/8 shy of 3/4. Which is probably not much difference in weight. Ok enough of this math stuff it's to early in the morning.

 

[ezmobee]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

I think 1/2" 5/8" and 3/4" are all available options. I think 5/8" would be a great compromise. 1/2" I just think is too thin and springy UNLESS you plan on adding a some glass to it which would be ideal.

 

[North Beach]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

Kelly, I gotta chime in here. Folks have beat the decking thing to death in these forums and you have to understand we all have our opinions. Here's my take.

I just finished restoring a 66 Sunchief. In 67 Starcraft discontinued the Sunchief and offered THIS boat on the same hull. You boat is actually the same color mine was.

My boat had 1/2" Douglas Fir Marine Grade plywood with one coat of glass mat on the top and nothing on the bottom. I removed it suspecting wet insulation. There was none and the plywood was still in great shape after 43 years!!!!

My suggestion is to go back with exactly what's there in Douglas Fir Marine Grade. Put two coats of General Purpose Epoxy with meduim hardener on the bottom side and rivet it down. Install the first coat of the same stuff with one layer of 10 ounce cloth. It's not hard or complicated. just squeegee the liquid on and embed the mat in making sure it lays flat and is thouroughly saturated. Look at the flooring section in my Sunchief resto thread. Then roll another layer of the epoxy on and you'll have a bullit proof deck.

If you use the exterior grade plywood the glues are water resistant/not water proof like in the marine grade and the exterior grade will soak up a ton of the epoxy resin. And the jury is still out on whether the soaking of the epoxy will have any long term effects on the glues in the exterior grade.

I guess my point here is I don't understand why folks still continue to try and reinvent the wheel on the plywood decking. We all know the marine grade douglas fir is the way to go.

Not tryin to flame anyone here it's just that we keep going on these threads recommending the exterior grade plywood and I'm not convinced it's the way to go. Please don't hate me.
My 75 Islander has 3/4" plywood. The Sunchief has 1/2". Go back with what's there and you won't have to adjust the height of your side panels.

 

[XchichaX]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

Sounds like a good deal, did you get it?

 

[zbadboy]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

Thanks for the info North Beach. I was unaware of the difference in glue or possible effects of the epoxy soaking in. If I am going to spend the time and money I might as well do it right. I will look into the marine grade plywood.

I was unaware this had been beat to death. Allot of times these discussions get embedded in the middle of a restoration thread.

Once again thanks

 

[North Beach]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

Thanks for the info North Beach. I was unaware of the difference in glue or possible effects of the epoxy soaking in. If I am going to spend the time and money I might as well do it right. I will look into the marine grade plywood.

I was unaware this had been beat to death. Allot of times these discussions get embedded in the middle of a restoration thread.

Once again thanks

Hey I wasn't tryin to come off as a richard. I just meant that there are some serious opinions regarding approaches to decking here. And mine isn't necessarily the only way to go. I'm just sayin, go with what you already had, and glass it.

 

[zbadboy]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

I didn't mean anything by what I wrote either North Beach all's good and I enjoy your posts

 

[KellyC]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

Well guess who is not the proud owner of a new to me 1967 21'6" Starcraft Islander? Well that would be ME. Man I am so stoked right now that I cannot stand it. Called the people this afternoon after spending all day salmon fishing which was a bust, theysaid come on out. I picked up a buddy and headed the hour and half drive to get there. Well could not find addy and this guy was sitting just down the street so I asked him if he knew where it was. So happens he was wanting to see the boat as well and told me where it was but was waiting for the daughter to show up. So I just went up and asked the owners that were there already since I had talked to them on the phone. The elderly gentelman(92) came out and showed me the boat. They were waiting for me as I called first, guy was kind of angry when I bought it. Had a couple flats but the eldery gentleman had a compressor to get some air in them, went to a gas station and filled them the rest of the way and beat feet for home. Had no lights as the trailer had a really weird plug that I had never seen before and it was still light out. Well after getting turned around and ending up in down town Portland it was dark when I finally did get home, but was home safe and sound. Hey NB thanks for the infor on the decking, not going to need it right now though. Floors are very solid, it has been under covered storage most of it lift and covered as well. Will try and get pics up tomorrow so you guys can really see it. I am bouncing all around and my wife was making fun of me cause I was excited about it. She has not seen it yet, she will sometime tomorrow as she is on her way to work now. Well since I was up at 4:30 am and it is now 10:00 pm I think I will try to go to sleep and not bounce off the walls about my new boat. Have a good night everyone.

 

[GLG fishing]

Re: 1962 21' starcraft

Congrats on the new to you boat.
You are 99% into the club now.
To complete the membership requirements you must post pictures of your rig.
No worries, as we will give you a few days to post pictures.
You are going to have a fish slaying machine with that one.

GLG