1972 Evinrude 125hp Electric Shift randomly shuts down.

throyz

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I have a 1972 Evinrude 125hp Outboard Engine with Electric Shift (no shift cable - 3 pushbuttons on throttle for F/N/R). I've had the engine for about 5 years - it was originally on a 1973 Thompson 18' Trihull runabout, but I moved it to a 1977 Harris 24' pontoon boat, where it still remains. The engine has run well since I got it (I had a head gasket replced 2 years ago, but that is the only semi major repair I've had). At the beginning of the 1992 boating season, the engine died and would not start. I had a mechanic look at it, and he diagnosed a bad electronic control unit and replaced it with an after market unit. The first one did not work at all, the second only allowed the motor to start (it ran fine), bit did not allow it to shut off when the key was turned off (I had to pull the battery wire off or choke it until it stopped). After consulting with Evinrude, he finally got a unit that worked. However, even though the engine runs smoothly, it cuts off abrubtly for no apparent reason. It does this at any RPM level. Sometimes it starts right back up, but usually it will not start - it just cranks over - sounds like it isn't getting any spark. After sitting for an amount of time (sometimes a 1/2 hour or so, sometimes overnight) it will usually restart. Sometimes it doesn't restart at all. My mechanic went through a variety of things - he replaced solenoids, replaced some of the wiring, replaced some parts in the electric shift system (apparently, no new parts are made for this system anymore). We thought it might be overheating, so we replaced the impeller and the thermostat as well as other cooling system parts (not sure what, but I think we replaced just about everything that was replacable in the system). We replaced plug wires and spark plugs. Nothing helped. There is gas getting to the cylinders when it shuts down, but no spark. Does anyone have any ideas?<br /><br />Thanks
 

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Re: 1972 Evinrude 125hp Electric Shift randomly shuts down.

Check the sensor wire where it flex's when you rotate the sensor plate. I have had them break right there, and do just what you dicribe.
 

throyz

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Re: 1972 Evinrude 125hp Electric Shift randomly shuts down.

R.Johnson,<br /><br />Thanks for the reply. Where is the sensor wire and the sensor plate? I didn't do much work on this thing and I'm not real familiar with the electrical system. It would be great if it was something so simple.<br />Thanks!
 

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Re: 1972 Evinrude 125hp Electric Shift randomly shuts down.

On the right side of the engine is where the linkage is at. Have someone move the throttle lever, and under the flywheel you will see the sensor plate move. The sensor wire comes out of an arm on this plate, and that is where it will make a bend. If you have an ohm meter, disconnect the sensor wire where it goes to the pack. Hook one lead from meter to this wire, the other to ground. Pull or bend the sensor wire, and see if the meter moves.
 

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Re: 1972 Evinrude 125hp Electric Shift randomly shuts down.

I made a mistake, there are two wires from the sensor, hook meter to these, not to ground, meter should show 6-8 ohms.
 

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Re: 1972 Evinrude 125hp Electric Shift randomly shuts down.

Unfortunately Troy posts like yours are all to common. You get a wrench to do something and what he does does not fix the problem and he just keeps on going fixin stuff that probably did not need fixin in the first place.<br /><br />My advice is to get another wrench and don't let him use after market parts. If what he fixes does not solve the problem, go back to him and have him fix it on his dime.
 

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Re: 1972 Evinrude 125hp Electric Shift randomly shuts down.

SoLittle,<br /><br />Yeah, I think he replaced everything but what was causing the problem - however, I haven't paid the mechanic for any of the work yet, and he doesn't want anything until the problem is fixed. I think he wants to sell me a new engine...
 

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Re: 1972 Evinrude 125hp Electric Shift randomly shuts down.

I located the sensor plate and the wires coming from it - there are three wires coming from it plus two other ground wires that go into this wiring harness. The 3 that come off the sensor plate are white w/black stripe (labeled "B" on wire harness), black w/white stripe (labeled "C") and green (labeled "5"). I put a ohmmeter between the three wires in all their combinations, and moved the wires around by the sensor plate, and got no reading (pointer remained at the infinity end of the scale). The wiring harness looks new - I'm guessing that the mechanic replaced this when he replaced the power pack. Unless I'm looking at the wrong thing, it seems that this may not be the problem.
 

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Re: 1972 Evinrude 125hp Electric Shift randomly shuts down.

Troy: I will get out my service manual, and trouble shooting guide, and get back to you.
 

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Re: 1972 Evinrude 125hp Electric Shift randomly shuts down.

Troy: This may not be an easy problem to solve without being right there, but I'll try. One thing I forgot to mention is this system has what is called an anti-reverse spring. It is just a looped spring that is held by friction around the crankshaft, and under the sensor plate. It will short out the ignition if the engine backfires, and tries to run backward. This spring, because it is held by friction can wear in two, or just get weak, and stay again'st the ground post. Test the two black & white wires with an ohm meter. They should read 4-6 ohms, these are the sensor wires. To check that anti-reverse spring with an ohm meter, put one lead to black & white sensor lead, other lead to engine ground. Work the throttle lever back, and forth to move stator plate. Meter should read at least 100,000 ohms. If this test shows a ground, or intermittent groud, or if the sensor does"nt show continuity, or very low continuity "4-6 ohm" hopefully you found the problem.
 
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