1972 outboard 115 hp

river boat

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help. the motor ran perfect and the cables got switched now it wont fire.it turns over but no spark.is this a coil issue,rectifier or stator ? please help
 

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Re: 1972 outboard 115 hp

Switching the battery cables can cause some of that magic smoke to be released into the atmosphere. Typically, the only damage done is to the rectifiers which shows up by having a non-functioning charging system and a non-functional tachometer.

It is possible other items were affected.

"won't fire" means it won't turn over, or it doesn't have spark on one or many cylinders, or?

Run a spark check on all six cylinders and report your findings. Be specific as to which spark plugs do have spark, if any.

Whoever told you to go buy 'new triggers' is providing you with mis-information without a diagnosis. Your motor has a trigger, but at this point its too early to tell if it is the problem, and is an unlikely candidate.

Most likely a rectifier, and/or switchbox issue, if anything.

How long were the cables hooked up backwards... ie. for an instant, or for a long period?
 

river boat

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Re: 1972 outboard 115 hp

they were hooked up for 15 20 mins and the engine was cranked several times.I am running some peliminary dionostics to pin point problem the motor ran great before this happened. any help is much apprecaited.
 

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Re: 1972 outboard 115 hp

it down to the switchbox or the trigger switch and is in the distubuter on this model . anyone have specific tests for the units to narrow it down.
 

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Re: 1972 outboard 115 hp

Not mine,but I think I saved it from this forum;)

MERCURY BATTERY-POWERED CDI TEST FOR DISTRIBUTOR MODELS

This test is for the 332-2986 switchbox used from 1967-1978 on all the inlines.

This test assumes your coil is good (problems with CDI coils are rare).

DISCONNECT BATTERY

1. Turn off ignition;

2. Disconnect all 3 distributor wires on the Port side of the switchbox;

3. Remove the HV lead from the ign coil to the center of the dist. cap (remember it unplugs from the coil and unscrews from the cap);

4. Reconnect the HV lead to the COIL only;

5. Position the free end of the HV lead approx. 3/8" from ground (block, shrouds etc), and find a way to hold it there;

6. Jumper the brown and white terminals on the dist. side of the switchbox to each other.

RECONNECT BATTERY

7. Check that you have +12V at the red terminal (even with the ign off);

8. Turn on ignition and verify +12V at the white terminal (same side as the red terminal);

9. Ground the black terminal on the distributor side of the switchbox - this should cause a spark each time you touch ground.

If you get spark with the distributor bypassed, and it won't fire with the distributor connected, the trigger is bad and the entire distributor housing assy must be replaced.

Now, if you have ADI ( Alternator Driven Ignition), let me know and I'll post some links to good troubleshooting info.

But for Inline Sixes from approx '68-'79 with belt-driven distributor (4-cyl's too except for Lightning Energizer ign), the above test will confirm a bad trigger.

If you get no spark using the test, the switchbox is probably bad. In that case, be sure to double-check for correct power on the switchbox, check all connections, and check the coil's resistance to make sure it's OK.
 

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Re: 1972 outboard 115 hp

it down to the switchbox or the trigger switch and is in the distributer on this model . anyone have specific tests for the units to narrow it down.

Do you have spark on any cylinders?
 

river boat

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Re: 1972 outboard 115 hp

no spark on any cylinders. Thanks for the test i will do it this morning
 

river boat

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Re: 1972 outboard 115 hp

allright here are the findings. 12v at red terminals with the key off at the switch box and the rectifirer.when the key is turned to the on position there is 12v at the white terminal on the same side as the red.When the black terminal is grounded with the ignition on there is no spark.
The coil has .2 ohms between the green and black leads coming out of it is this correct?
so is it safe to say by a switch box?
thanks.
 

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Re: 1972 outboard 115 hp

its alive agian,thanks to those who helped.the switch box was the trick!
 

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Re: 1972 outboard 115 hp

Mark your wires so it wont happen again.;)
 

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Re: 1972 outboard 115 hp

Are you saying you replaced the switchbox? If so, where did you find one of that vintage?
 

river boat

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Re: 1972 outboard 115 hp

Yes the switchbox was toast but did not show any signs of being melted.I got lucky and found a local marine dealer who has tons of old mercs and used parts. just used the boat and it ran great up and down the river. the jet pump took allitle to dial it in but when i removed the aftermarket water scoops it worke fine.:D
 
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