ckgreenman
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The motor is a 1975 9.9 with electric start and am looking for a charging conversion for it. Does one exist? Is it possible to modify an existing kit to work on this motor?
Thanks
Thanks
The motor is a 1975 9.9 with electric start and am looking for a charging conversion for it. Does one exist? Is it possible to modify an existing kit to work on this motor?
Thanks
I read somewhere that the earlier (70s) 9.s didn't have charging. I haven't actually tested to see if it's even trying or not. I also don't have the model number handy right now but I can get that later this week. Where do I find the model number for the motor? How easy is it to remove the flywheel?
The 74-76 Electric start 9.9's certainly did, wiring diagram shows a rectifier and 2 charge coils. Plate on the transom clamps there is a model plate stamped on it and a flywheel is pretty straight forward, you will need a puller to remove it. Without pulling the flywheel, look on the side of the motor for the terminal block, follow the yellow and yellow and blue wire to the rectifier.
I guess the question remains, is your motor electric start and is it not charging?
Ok I guess I was misled. It IS an electric start but whether it's original or converted I don't know. The start button is on the left side of the motor on the opposite side and roughly even with where the tiller attaches. I'll try to get to the boat this week and get the model number.
If it DOES have a charging circuit how do I go about testing it? I assume the charger would produce output on the same cables that connect to the battery.
Thanks.
Use a voltmeter (multimeter) set on DC Volts range suitable for around 20 volts.
1: Check the voltage across the battery terminals
2: Start the motor and let it run awhile.
3: Recheck the voltage while still running. Should be higher than it was before you started it.
It takes awhile to build voltage so don't expect a big change right away. Since it is unregulated, if you run it a real long time on a fully charged battery, the voltage may go up to 15 or so. Normal
OK well I don't have a battery on the boat but I took a voltmeter and fired it up. At idle it was producing about 20 volts and at high speed around 40+. I assume this means I have a charging system and it's working. With no load do those voltages sound right?
It's working as far as output but it would serve as a better test if a good battery were connected, I wouldn't run it too long without one connected of course, 40 Volts is almost triple what it would put out with a load.
I wouldn't worry about it, the charging system only puts out like 5 amps as compared to the much larger one's on the bigger motors, these don't put out a lot at trolling, that's half the issue with the system, it's small.
A good read:
http://www.sschapterpsa.com/ramblings/johnson_9.9_electricstarthtm.htm
Thank you BK, for referring on to my recent article. This is one of the latest that I have added, not finished quite yet, but close.
LW
Agreed, it appears to be working and overcharging is not a big issue with them. And I also agree that you should not run it without a battery. As you have discovered, running on open circuit causes the voltage to go way up. Rectifier diodes don't like high voltges. They can stand a certain design voltage, then poof.
Agreed, it appears to be working and overcharging is not a big issue with them. And I also agree that you should not run it without a battery. As you have discovered, running on open circuit causes the voltage to go way up. Rectifier diodes don't like high voltges. They can stand a certain design voltage, then poof.
Deep cycle starting battery would be the way to go IMO.
And they do make a starting marine battery (it's a hybrid of both starting and deep cycle, I should have left the term "deep cycle" out of the suggestion), I have one in my boat as I don't need the added power of a true deep cycle and I have a much larger charging system then yours. A true deep cycle will cost much more and weigh much more but may work "better" due to the low amp output of a 9.9.