1976 650 tilt trim needed

Dask

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Just got a 1971 16' Starcraft SS. Has a 1976 Mercury 650 (65 hp) on it. It does not have tilt trim. Does anyone know what other motors use the same tilt trim for my 650? Only ben a member here for about a week, but have gotten lots of tips from all the posts.
 

emckelvy

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Re: 1976 650 tilt trim needed

The older Mercs used a 2-ram setup, with the hydraulic cylinders (rams) mounted on brackets, in place of the shock absorbers. This was a 2-hose-per-cylinder PT&T with the pump mounted inboard, under the motor splashwell.

Your best bet would be to find a parts motor on Craigslist with the complete PT&T setup. You could also piece it together from sources such as eBay, but there's a lot of little bits & pieces and it'll probably cost an arm-&-a-leg bought that way.

This PT&T setup was used on any number of 2, 3, 4, and 6-cylinder motors and is pretty much the same for any of them.

If you can find a good deal on a complete setup with intact hoses, that's all the better. The 4 hoses themselves will be quite expensive to replace if it doesn't come with.

Here's a brand-new Merc power trim kit, the only one I was able to find on eBay, it's from the U.K. and quite expensive at $707 plus $120 shipping:

Power Trim Kit P T T Unit for Mercury Mariner Outboard Engines | eBay

At least it'll give you an idea of what the parts look like.

As an alternative, there are aftermarket PT&T kits which mount the motor on a PT&T-equipped plate. CMC is a major mfr of these:

Electric Hydraulic Power Tilt And Trim PT-130 without Gauge - CMC 13002 - iboats

You have to be sure to get one that meets or exceeds your hp rating. For example, the PT-35 is max rated for 35hp whereas the PT-130 is good to 130hp.

One of these may be cheaper than finding all the parts for the OEM PT&T. I'd take a hard look at Craigslist 'cause many times you'll see the parts for sale either separately or on a dead motor.

Here's an example of the OEM PT&T on a vintage G3, picture courtesy of my good buddy Dr. Frankenmerc of Shelton, WA.

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HTH...........ed
 

Dask

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Re: 1976 650 tilt trim needed

Thanks for the info. Just so happens one of my hobbies is searching Craigslist. Guess I will start looking. Thanks again.
 

mercurymang

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Re: 1976 650 tilt trim needed

I was looking at my supplemental manual and found some information in there that I thought was informative and that I have not seen anyone refer to. It lists two styles; an integral and a non-integral type. The non integral is the one mentioned above with the two seperate cylinders. The integral, has one cylinder and sits sort of underneath as opposed to on the side. I have a 75 650 and am looking for PTT as well. I missed one on CL for $100 recently and am still kicking myself. Gook luck with your search.
 
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