1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

[dozerII]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Thanks guys, put a coat of stripper and plastic on yesterday afternoon, then got called out to work. So I will see in a bit here how well the process works on 4 or 5 coats of nasty bottom paint.

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Okay so I think the upper flange on the stripper pole came loose After sitting for close to 16 hours covered with plastic the paint won this round. There are three coats of white, one of a creamy yellow and a layer of lake crud that wouldn't come off with a turbo tip on the pressure washer.
Results after scrapping off the first batch of loose stuff.







And another real gloppy coat on to see if I can win the battle.



Updates later.

 

[jasoutside]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Stripping paint is a drag man. It always gets me guessing if the expense of soda blasting is worth it ya know...

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

It still looks like you are hours ahead using that stripper instead of other means, and got to bare aluminum on most of it......

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Did ya mix with flour? It allows you to put a WAAAAY thicker coat on... made a huge difference for me... also don't know what the temp in your garage is, but about 60F or greater seems to be the magic number. I have noticed a difference if it is cooler.

Try a section without the plastic, but with the flour and goop it on thicker than you would think necessary --- think icing on cake! If you can't see the boat hull, it's good.

Just some thoughts for you to experiment with that worked well for me.

Jim

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

The spot near the stern cleaned up nice, for a couple of feet anyway. Hope round two does the trick on the rest.

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Stripping paint is a drag man. It always gets me guessing if the expense of soda blasting is worth it ya know...

Ya this type of stripping sucks.

It still looks like you are hours ahead using that stripper instead of other means, and got to bare aluminum on most of it......

It's coming!!

Did ya mix with flour? It allows you to put a WAAAAY thicker coat on... made a huge difference for me... also don't know what the temp in your garage is, but about 60F or greater seems to be the magic number. I have noticed a difference if it is cooler.

Try a section without the plastic, but with the flour and goop it on thicker than you would think necessary --- think icing on cake! If you can't see the boat hull, it's good.

Just some thoughts for you to experiment with that worked well for me.

Jim

I will have to give that a try Jim, temp is around 65, I am getting it real thick and holding it in place with the plastic. I think the problem is the crud from the water.

The spot near the stern cleaned up nice, for a couple of feet anyway. Hope round two does the trick on the rest.

It seems to work in places but not others???
I attack from a different flank in the next post.

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Still waiting for the stuff I put on at 8am to do it's thing, patience is a little lacking with this part of a rebuild.
SO WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH, THE TOUGH GO CHEMICALSainkiller:
I put on my respirator and dug out the gallon of Aircraft Stripper, in 45 minutes this is what I accomplished.







Paint 1 Glen 4

 

[InMotion]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

There ya go!!! That's looking some serious progress there! Maybe there is a limitation to the Safe Strip --- no water crud????

J.

 

[GA_Boater]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Do you have a chemical dependency? The water crud theory will be proved/disproved when you get to the sides.

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Do you have a chemical dependency? The water crud theory will be proved/disproved when you get to the sides.

Totally GA, it is one of the side effects of MBS Going to give the Jims kitchen mix with the Safe Strip a try on the sides once I get the bottom wiped

 

[cj8mule]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Nice work Glen. You sure make that look easy from here.

 

[classiccat]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Breakin' out the big guns! Lookin' good glen!

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Nice work Glen. You sure make that look easy from here.

Breakin' out the big guns! Lookin' good glen!

Thanks Guys, CJ I got a fridge full of cold beer and an extra scrapper if you want to come up and have a go at it.:lol:

 

[Weep'n Willy]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Thanks Guys, CJ I got a fridge full of cold beer and an extra scrapper if you want to come up and have a go at it.:lol:

Looks like you are down to some serious business!! Yes, beer is mandatory but I'm not sure I can relate to the scraper Not sure which is the worse of the 2 evils, stripping or sanding. Neither one is too appealing. I guess the real question is cost vs time ...... ?cheaper to hand sand, spot prime then paint ? (time consuming) or ?strip, total prime, then paint? (more cost) ?? I opted for the hand sand and man that took a lot of time, even with an orbital for the larger areas.

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Looks like you are down to some serious business!! Yes, beer is mandatory but I'm not sure I can relate to the scraper Not sure which is the worse of the 2 evils, stripping or sanding. Neither one is too appealing. I guess the real question is cost vs time ...... ?cheaper to hand sand, spot prime then paint ? (time consuming) or ?strip, total prime, then paint? (more cost) ?? I opted for the hand sand and man that took a lot of time, even with an orbital for the larger areas.

Hey WW thanks for stopping by. Ya there was just to much bad paint in real poor condition on this old girl to even think about sanding. They never even bothered to clean off the lake growth between coats, I'm pretty sure that is what is causing me the grief getting this crap off.

Almost done the bottom, more pics soon.

 

[jbcurt00]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

In case you miss it, since you asked:

Hey JB, I just ordered some rivets and a couple of sets from the U.S. can't find a decent supplier of solid ones up here!! Should a guy be using the hard or soft ones?

Per RivetsOnline (which is Jay-Cee sales & rivet inc) the soft alloy will give me the best results (easy to drive) and be strong enough to do what I need them to on a vintage aluminum boat. At RivetsOnline, that's the 1100F alloy. Their tech also told me if I want to dress the shank instead of mushrooming it over, I need to watch online videos & learn how to make it look similar to how the original rivets did, not an easy task.

If I can find a bucking bar w/ a cupped indention, it might help to start the rivet rounding over instead of looking like a flattened out mushroom...

Looks like I need to start practicing....................

 

[barato2]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

Glen, maybe you need to contact Interlux or Pettit about selling em that lake goop for use in formulating their bottom paints?

spherical grinding points are cheap and easy to find, and would make creating a cupped end for the bar a piece of cake

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

In case you miss it, since you asked:

Thanks for the info JB, I only ordered the soft ones so they will have to do. I will also look up some of those videos you recommended.

Glen, maybe you need to contact Interlux or Pettit about selling em that lake goop for use in formulating their bottom paints?

spherical grinding points are cheap and easy to find, and would make creating a cupped end for the bar a piece of cake

No doubt B2, this lake growth is nasty.

 

[dozerII]

Re: 1976 Holiday 18 Mercruiser 120

A little progress. I gave Jim's (Inmotions) kitchen recipe a try with no luck at all, so I went back to the HD chemicals. This is were I'm at after 4 liters of Safe Strip (which worked very well on the top) and a gallon of Aircraft stripper.







And I thought I would add these two photos for our Southern Bros, just so you won't feel left out. We are just on the tail end of our first bad winter storm, temp -16c windchill -30c and tomorrows high is -22c with a 30 k wind.