1976 sea ray srv 200 rebuild

[sjdoo2]

In my 1975 sea ray srv 200, I have cut the floors out, leaving the lip also. The stringers in mine are completely delaminated and flaking out,, but there are no fiberglass channels. Is this the norm for 1975? a little help?
Should I expect to remove all the foam to make room to fiberglass the stringers to the hull, or just construction adhesive to the hull?
i know how you guys love pictures, and i am working on flicker now.

 

[ondarvr]

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Re: 1975 sea ray srv 200 questions

Your best bet right now would be to do a search here on "stringers" or "glassing stringers"

This will give you a great deal of reading and an idea of what you need to do, then you'll have some questions about your exact project.

 

[drewpster]

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The short answer is remove the foam, glass the stringers in, pour in more foam.
But as on-da-river has stated, (or on-dar-ver as I have called him for a couple of years now) there is tons of reference here on stringers, decks and transoms here. Do a search or two and look it over.
What can I say, I'm a little slow on the uptake.

 

[sjdoo2]

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Thank you guys for your replys. I will continue to dig then. As previously stated, I have read a bunch on the forums about the topic, but most posts talked about a channel of fiberglass that the stringers are taken out of. I noted that my boat only has wood.
I will take some pictures of where I am now, and some more after I dig out the foam. I am a carpenter, and should have no problems with this project, with the advice of some fine folks here.

 

[sjdoo2]

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[sjdoo2]

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one more photo from today, after getting started on pulling

 

[sjdoo2]

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Couple more questions<< should i grind out the ski locker? Is there any wood/foam under there. I don't want to find out later that there should be a center stringer or something crazy like that.

I brought the foam to the dump today, and it weighed in at a whopping total of 300 pounds. I think that is a new champ for a 20 footer. (yes that includes the stringers (better known as "mulch")

Another question, what next? motor? Anyone have a link to basic directions for pulling the rest. mercruiser 888/ford 302. from what i can distinguish.
see next pic.

Can anyone distinguish this marking? looks like 65534 with a word in the circle above the numbers.

Steve

 

[drewpster]

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Re: 1975 sea ray srv 200 questions

Are you prepared to completely de-rig the boat and replace all the wood cores? Judging from your pictures and the weight of the removed foam my guess is you have some pretty extensive work ahead of you. Don't get me wrong, I have no way to accurately access the amount of damage there is. You have to do that. But a complete teardown is a possibility.
The good news is that you are in good company. There is plenty of help available here. And we are glad to help. I just like to be realistic for people just starting the process. It can get involved.

My advice at this point is that you go ahead and pull the engine. You are going to need a hoist of some kind. You can rent one, build one, use a stout joist in the roof of the garage, or use a strong tree limb. The engine mounts are usually made the same way the stringers are. (fiberglass and wood) They could be wet and rotten. Take a close look inside and around the engine to see how the engine is bolted to the transom adapter and the mounts. Remove those bolts and the engine should lift out. (after hoses, electrics and such are disconnected)

The bottom of the ski locker should be the bottom of the boat. What and where you grind will become apparent after you get more of the deck taken up and see how far the damage goes. Basically you are going to have to grind and clean any surface that you are going to bond new glass, gelcoat, or paint. You have to get things as clean and level as possible before any re-glassing takes place to get a good bond.

 

[sjdoo2]

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Are you prepared to completely de-rig the boat and replace all the wood cores? Judging from your pictures and the weight of the removed foam my guess is you have some pretty extensive work ahead of you. Don't get me wrong, I have no way to accurately access the amount of damage there is. You have to do that. But a complete teardown is a possibility.
The good news is that you are in good company. There is plenty of help available here. And we are glad to help. I just like to be realistic for people just starting the process. It can get involved.

My advice at this point is that you go ahead and pull the engine. You are going to need a hoist of some kind. You can rent one, build one, use a stout joist in the roof of the garage, or use a strong tree limb. The engine mounts are usually made the same way the stringers are. (fiberglass and wood) They could be wet and rotten. Take a close look inside and around the engine to see how the engine is bolted to the transom adapter and the mounts. Remove those bolts and the engine should lift out. (after hoses, electrics and such are disconnected)

The bottom of the ski locker should be the bottom of the boat. What and where you grind will become apparent after you get more of the deck taken up and see how far the damage goes. Basically you are going to have to grind and clean any surface that you are going to bond new glass, gelcoat, or paint. You have to get things as clean and level as possible before any re-glassing takes place to get a good bond.

Drewpster, thanks for the reply. Yes I am prepared for a total re-do. Hard to tell from
the pictures, but the deck,most of the foam, and the stringers are gone. Just some of the glass from the locker.
This will be my first i/o motor pull. Everything wood has fallen apart in my hands so far, and yes that includes the transom. The PO kindly put a new deck made fron 1/2 pt ply.
and new carpet. Thanks for all the holes in the deck PO
I cleaned out the boat of all foreign objects today, and plan to get the V8 out this week.

And yes, I firmly believe that I am in experienced hands.

 

[drewpster]

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OK good, now that we have firmly established you are insane, we can move forward!

Can you tell if you are going to have to de-cap the boat to do the transom once the engine is out?

 

[sjdoo2]

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With the engine still in place, and the floor still below that, it looks like I won't have to split the cap. I should be able to insert the top of the transom, and swing the bottom in. We shall see what the boat gods have in store for me when we cross that bridge.
I asked about grinding out the ski locker, because there is a drain hole in it. There is no more foam surrounding a tube that leads to the bilge? Or is there no "tube", just hull? I don't want to leave any wet foam in the boat. I don't intend to put a ski locker back in (due to my lack of fiberglassing skills) but may change my mind when I glass the stringers back in. If things go easy, it wouldn't be that hard to just re wrap the box. That is not in the immediate future, so I won't worry about that.
Good new now!!! I picked up some muffs, and made sure that the labor of love that I am about to put forth was going to be worth it.
Took some fuel down the chevy carb and an adjustment of the points, but she did crank up.
First time I have ever seen a chevy carb on a ford motor, but,,,,,,?????
Most of the wiring is dry and spliced like cable tv in a brooklyn building. It is raining here, so work will have to hold off till tomorrow, but I can't wait to rewire the motor.
any guesses on how fast this boat will run? (20' 188hp mercruiser 888/302)
Your guess can be in new condition, or used.
Just curious

 

[sjdoo2]

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Will it ever stop raining in the northeast????
I have picked up a new starter (yes marine). Put the outdrive back on, attatched the earmuffs
And with a little fuel in the filter, and a little more down the chevy carb, I was able to make the 302 fire up, and idle under it's own power.
!!! - am very excited to hear it run for myself. If the rain ever stops, I will work on cutting the new stringers in.

 

[sjdoo2]

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I have got the excavator parked behind the boat right now, and will be pulling the motor today!
Over the past few weeks, I have been looking and learning about the inboard outboard concept.
And seem less frightened about the pull.
Wish me luck. I will upload some more picture later.

 

[sjdoo2]

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Just a shot of the motor before IT WAS REMOVED TODAY!!!!! It feels good to be moving forward on this project. I'm hoping to be able to cut the bilge out in one shot so it can be reused. I will upload some more pics tomorrow before and after i cut the rest out.

 

[sjdoo2]

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It's been a while, but I've made some progress. All the mechanicals are out of the boat.
Finished cutting everything out (just some glass leftover at the top of the transom). At this point I own a hull.
Thought about selling the trailer, motor and outdrive to get my money back. But I am going to continue on.
Some pictures?? Here goes.