1976 Starcraft Chieftain 25 MK IV

horsecapades

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Re: 1976 Starcraft Chieftain 25 MK IV

I think there is some good logic there...

One starting batt, one back up starting batt, one deep cycle for running all the "stuff". I think probably one more than what I might haul arround but there isn't anything wrong with having some extra back up, eh!

I have obtained the factory wire color code chart and the full factory wiring schematic for my boat. I notice in the schematic that there is a harness for a trolling motor. I am wondering if that 3rd battery could be for that with the other for starting and another for accessories and lighting. This would make sense since there really would be no need for 3 batteries unless the trolling motor circuit existed. I still have not gotten to that part. I'll let you know
 

Huron Angler

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Re: 1976 Starcraft Chieftain 25 MK IV

Hope you guys with your fully restored boats are enjoying your time on the lakes, kicking back, having a few beers and fishing.

Well...my rig is only partially restored...but I have been doing what you said;)

I will say that if I had a 25' rig I'd want three batteries myself. You have the room and weight capacity so might as well have peace of mind to go with it!

I'd actually want one crank-start and two deep-cycle since I know I'd be adding all sorts of electronics to a cabin cruiser like that. One of those Minn Kotas that attach to the motor's outdrive would be ideal on your boat too(just cost lots of $$).

Hope all goes well at the mechanic:)
 

horsecapades

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Re: 1976 Starcraft Chieftain 25 MK IV

Well...my rig is only partially restored...but I have been doing what you said;)

I will say that if I had a 25' rig I'd want three batteries myself. You have the room and weight capacity so might as well have peace of mind to go with it!

I'd actually want one crank-start and two deep-cycle since I know I'd be adding all sorts of electronics to a cabin cruiser like that. One of those Minn Kotas that attach to the motor's outdrive would be ideal on your boat too(just cost lots of $$).

Hope all goes well at the mechanic:)

I am hoping the motor will be fine. As I said before, the boat was running when the original owners decided to replace the bellows. They put it back together and realized they forgot the clamps for them. They took the lower unit off and thats as far as they got before they decided to sell it. This was coming form the original owner, as the guy I got the boat from, purchased it and let it sit. It had been winterized so I am hoping that everything is ok.
Even if it is not, my wife's old family friend, the mechanic who will be looking at it, closed his mobile marine repair business a few years back. He has lots of motor parts and just about everything to build a complete new engine and drive. I posted before that he has a lower unit that is a few years old but it is essentially brand new. He said I could have it for $75.00 if mine does not work. This was excellent news. He also is unable to do the work because of a back injury (which is why he closed the business) and we discussed that I will be doing the work under his watchful eye. I will be receiving expert tutelage and learning how to maintain my boat in the process. Because of this, he will be charging me about 25% of what it would cost if I had him doing it. I believe that either way, it is a win-win for me.
As far as the batteries go, I posted that I purchased three. This is a quote from an earlier post:
Because I was unsure, I bought 1 battery for each spot. All 3 were deep cycle. One deep cycle/ starting battery w/ 200 minutes reserve capacity and 675 cold cranking amps w/ dual connectors, one deep cycle battery w/ 180 minutes reserve capacity with dual connectors and the bad boy of marine batteries, from my point of view anyway, one 205 minute reserve capacity with 1150 cold cranking amps, special coating for corrosion resistance and an anti vibration case.
I am hoping that this is all I will need. I also found a plug for what appears to be a hookup for shore power. I notice in the schematic that there is a circuit made just for shore power. I am unsure how it works and am assuming there is a converter involved that will convert 120 to 12 volt. As I am unsure exactly how it works, I will learn.
I am excited about really starting the deconstruction process. It seems like its been years already, when in reality, its been 2 months. I am not a very patient person and its killing me to wait, but wait I will.
If anyone is starting a restoration for a 22 or 25' Chieftain, I can save you a bunch of time as I have the wiring schematic and color code chart that was used by Starcraft. I would be happy to email you a copy.
I feel very lucky to have found a network of experienced people, either here on the boards or people in my community that can help. Lucky, that the boat is in excellent condition overall and hopeful that I will outlive the restoration process.
 

horsecapades

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Re: 1976 Starcraft Chieftain 25 MK IV

Hello All,
Returned from the engine shop. Didnt get very far. There are several parts missing from the boat and drive. So far, I will need a new gimbal bearing, starter and solenoid, pins for mounting the lower unit and other various small parts for the outdrive. I am going to remove the front engine mount and support the block and make sure the thing is free before I spend anymore money. If i can get the damned motor turned over, I might consider fixing the transom. If I cant, then I would consider chaning the transom to support and outboard motor

When you take into account the fact that the floor needs replacing, I am having thoughts about whether I have bitten off more than I can chew. I am considering 2 options. 1) Spend the money and do the work myself or sell the boat. I am really on the fence right now and will have much thinking to do. The engine was my main concern before but now the transom is really giving me nightmares.

I'll report back when I have made a decision. Hope everyone's summer is going well on the water.
 

Triton II

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Re: 1976 Starcraft Chieftain 25 MK IV

Good luck with your decision. You know what it's going to be don't you? :D :cool:

TII
 

Huron Angler

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Re: 1976 Starcraft Chieftain 25 MK IV

That feeling is normal for a boat restoration. There are always brief moments of buyer's remorse that eventually evaporate like fog dissipating off the lake when the sun breaks thru the clouds.

The deck and transom can be redone with a little work, yours are just much larger than our normal size tin cans:D

Good luck and keep us posted!
 

horsecapades

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Sounds to me as if you guys want me to continue with this project more than I do. :p What was it that someone said about the Starcraft club being a cult. I dont remember. Was it that once your in, they wont let you leave. You guys are way too funny :D
 

jasoutside

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Re: 1976 Starcraft Chieftain 25 MK IV

Sorta like the mafia just with a real family friendly atmosphere!

You'll still need to go underground if you attempt to leave.

Now get out there and start wrenching on Er!

Cheers man!:D
 

horsecapades

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Re: 1976 Starcraft Chieftain 25 MK IV

Hello All,
I'll first start by saying thank you to everyone for your support. It would appear my resto is finished before it really got started. I have decided to sell the boat and am currently negotiating for a 32' wood Chris Craft. Bigger boat, made of wood, more problems. I know, I know but..... it is a beautiful boat and has so much charm.

I have been to many forums before coming across this one. I am happy to report that this is by far the best group of people I have discovered yet. Everyone in the Starcraft forum is extremely helpful. The amount of information is incredible and so willing to help.

I would hope that one day I will have a change of heart, if for no other reason than the camaraderie I felt here, and decide to buy another Starcraft.
For now, I will be selling the boat and anyone who might be interested can certainly send me a message. I know there were a couple of you who might have been interested. I will attempt to get the boat listed on iBoats as soon as I can figure out where to put it and after giving anyone from the Starcraft forum a chance to contact me first. I will check in on everyone's resto's from time to time.

There is a 1967 21' Starcraft Cuddy on eBay right now, being sold for peanuts by the Boat Angels Ministries. Boat was $146.94 with 2 days left. Good luck to everyone in their Starcraft endeavors and keep em' hull down. Thanks again, William Blue
 

HopeSheFloats

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Re: 1976 Starcraft Chieftain 25 MK IV

We'll leave the light on for you, as long as you post photos of the new love. ;)
Momma always said, 'follow your heart', Dad said, 'go with your gut feeling'...sounds as though you have it handled...best to you on the new adventure!
 

jasoutside

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Re: 1976 Starcraft Chieftain 25 MK IV

I am with ya William. The guys around here are super gents. Some riff raff mixed in, but ya take the good with the bad I suppose:D

Sounds like you'll be plenty busy with that big wood barge!

Rock on man!:D
 

jetstreakdave

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Re: 1976 Starcraft Chieftain 25 MK IV

Nice piece of aluminum you have there. I have one that is almost identical, its a 78 MKiv. I like your interior colours. Mine is a lovely green ick, that is being changed. None of my business, but what did you pay for it?
 

Triton II

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Re: 1976 Starcraft Chieftain 25 MK IV

Hi H-E, pity about the Starcraft but great news about the Chris Craft - hope you get her. As Warren Buffett said: "Should you find yourself in a chronically leaking boat, energy devoted to changing vessels is likely to be more productive than energy devoted to patching leaks."

Good luck and we're waiting for your new resto thread! :cool:

TII
 
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