1982 Glastron Hpv165 bass boat restoration.

[jc55]

Re: 1982 Glastron Hpv165 bass boat restoration.

Nice work and stand! I'd lag one side of your gantry into the wall as you suggested. Maybe lightly c-clamp padded 2x4's,EMT conduit, etc. or something over the top of the gunwales long ways for rigidity? My wife and I lifted the cap once with my 11 year old son carrying the back. My molded steps meant for a high lift but we made it...(she's a nurse )

 

[jasonbailey]

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Great looking gantry system. Maybe connect the two with a single 2X6 in the middle? I'm going to do something similar, I was thinking of just directly attaching to overhead joists.

Several years ago my wife bought a Jack Russell Terrier. The dog promptly attached herself to me. She was mean, cranky, and generally socially unacceptable, just like me. So, we got along great. I deployed to Iraq in 2008, when I was gone the dog got sick and passed away. She was 10, but I thought for sure she'd be there when I got home. I tell you, I had never been more upset after getting the news. We went a few years without a dog, but I got a Belgian Malinois who is now my shadow, and we've adopted two others. It is crazy how you get attached to them.

 

[maryhannaj]

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Thanks to everyone for your replies and ideas, but by the time I logged in, I had already finished up to the point that I'm at right now.

Jc55. I noticed from your thread that your family is getting right in there with you on your project. I think that definatly says something. It's cool that you had them to help you lift that cap too. Thanks for the advice compliments and advice as well!

jasonbaily. Good luck on your upcoming project. I wish I could have used the joists but there all dry walled in and I didn't want to cut any holes. At this point, I kind of wish I would have. It would have saved me a bunch of time and some money too. And thank you very much for your service to our country. I am a former Marine myself. Although I served in between conflicts, so many others like yourself lived, served and sacrificed more than they should have ever had to!

 

[maryhannaj]

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So here's what I managed to get done today. I think I'm ready to start the cap lift.
Jbcurt00, im gonna take your advice and get the steering wheel and the windscreen out of the way before the lift. I also added another upright to support the weight of the column. It will be heavier in that spot and im afraid of it folding in the center if I lift only from the front and back.

 

[maryhannaj]

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So here's what I managed to get done today. I think I'm ready to start the cap lift.
Jbcurt00, im gonna take your advice and get the steering wheel and the windscreen out of the way before the lift. I also added another upright to support the weight of the column. It will be heavier in that spot and im afraid of it folding in the center if I lift only from the front and back.

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[maryhannaj]

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Sorry about the double post, but there seems to be a problem with the way I trying to post pics.
After I built the third upright, I lag screwed a few boards into the wall on one side of the gantry system. I then drilled some holes in those boards and installed some bicycle hangers that I have had sitting around. Next I looped some tie down straps around one leg of each upright on the opposite side and attached them to the bicycle hangers and then screwed the hangers in tight to help pull in the slack.
Hopefully this will help eliminate sway collapse.

 

[maryhannaj]

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After I felt somewhat comfortable with the gantry system I decided it was time to build the cap lift cradle itself. Now I know this seems like a very strange way to do this, but the way the cap is designed with the forward casting deck, the console and the livewells all as one part of the cap itself, I would have to do more unwanted cutting or really start thinking of different ways to lift.
So this is what I came up with. This is probably the way im going to lift it but I still definitely welcome any and all advice on the matter.
On the stern of the cap, I was able to slide a lifting board all the way through on a good straight shot so I will actually lifting in the more traditional manner in that one spot.
On the bow of the cap, there is no place to push a board through without cutting holes. The only reason I didnt just move the gantry above the bow further forward to where I could do so is because of the garage door opener being in the way, and the cap has to be dropped in that spot. So I will run a board over the top and then fasten the cap to the board itself with some heavy braid nylon rope by running the rope underneath the casting deck from side to side.
In the center of the cap I will have to do it the same way so that the weight of the cap doesn't crush itself under lifting pressure. Only because the inner side of each cap rail extends about 3 inches further down than the outside does only in this section.
I then attached the 3 lifting rails together with a 10" 2?4 on both sides to help even the load as I walk probably 150 times around the boat cranking the ratchet straps up as evenly ss I can.
Sorry about the crude drawings, but I am no artist for sure.
I guess sometime in the next couple of days I will have to "sack up" and actually lift the cap. I look forward to hearing from everyone and thanks as usual for sharing in my adventure!

 

[Daniel1947]

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Everything is looking pretty good. I believe you may have "over" engineered, but better to "over" engineer than to hear that crash in the middle of the night. Are you planning to work on the hull under the cap after you have it raised or going to build a cradle for the hull and then lay the cap on the trailer to get it out of the way, or just move the trailer and hull to the other side of the garage/work area? Unless you are 3 feet tall, I don't think you will be working under the cap....:lol:

BTW....Semper Fi.....I did my time with the Marines 1967-71, yes...I also did a 13 month tour in Vietnam....both were a learning experience. But, I want to thank you and Mr Bailey for your service. Keep up the good work.

 

[jasonbailey]

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Everything is looking pretty good. I believe you may have "over" engineered, but better to "over" engineer than to hear that crash in the middle of the night. Are you planning to work on the hull under the cap after you have it raised or going to build a cradle for the hull and then lay the cap on the trailer to get it out of the way, or just move the trailer and hull to the other side of the garage/work area? Unless you are 3 feet tall, I don't think you will be working under the cap....:lol:

BTW....Semper Fi.....I did my time with the Marines 1967-71, yes...I also did a 13 month tour in Vietnam....both were a learning experience. But, I want to thank you and Mr Bailey for your service. Keep up the good work.

Marines from 67-71? You guys went up against the varsity. My father-in-law was a USMC cannon cocker up near the DMZ from 68-69. From what he's told me it was rough way to go. My Dad was Army and he was in Vietnam from 62-64. Thank you for your service. I knew it was a different war when our chief complaint was when the interent got slow.... All kidding aside, I was able to deploy once to Iraq, once to Afghanistan. Both were good tours, and helped support the war effort. I was far from the tip of the spear, but helped make sure the tip was sharp. Back to boat restoration...

 

[maryhannaj]

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My hat is off to both of you gentlemen!! Daniel1947, yes, I think I did possibly over engineer it, but it was fun! I have a tendancy to overthink stuff I suppose. Sometimes it helps, but sometimes it does more bad then good. I hope for my sake in this case it was worth it.
To answer your question about the cap and hull. Once I am able to move the hull out from beneath the cap, I plan to drop it down on to some work stands. Once it is in place, I will have to disassemble the gantry system and remove it all together. I will then back the trailer and hull in right next to the cap.
I plan to store the gantry system outside wrapped in a large tarp outside so the snow doesn't ruin it. It shouldn't be too difficult to reassemble it when it comes time to drop the cap back on to the hull as long as I lable all of the pieces so I know where they belong. I used screws on everything for that purpose.
With the trailer and the cap being right next to each other, work space will be pretty cramped but I will have to just make it work somehow. I do plan to do quite a bit of work including a few modifications to the cap so it will have to stay inside.
Truthefully, I would still be just wondering how I was going to remove the cap without hiring some help if it weren't for the help and plans from other members of this community. So at this point, I guess I will just have to see how it works out.
The best part about all of this is being able to share with everyone how I am attempting to do it. It is already making it a much more fun and rewarding project.
As usual, thanks to everyone for hangin out with me on this!

 

[Daniel1947]

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I am sure you have been reading some other threads on the forum. There are some real good examples of building a cradle to support the hull after you have pulled the cap. My understanding is if you don't support/hold the hull with supports, there is a good possibility that it will spread and/or deform and at that point it is a "real" big pain to get the cap back on afterwards. From most of the major restorations I have read, everyone seems to build some type of cradle to get the hull off the trailer. Many of them then put the cap on the trailer (with supports to also retain it's original form) and move the trailer and cap out of the way. Just my 2 cents worth and only passing on what I have read in many of the other threads. That is pretty much what I have planned to do when I begin my resoration in about a month. OH, I really didn't think you were 3 foot tall, and would be working under the cap.

 

[maryhannaj]

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Yeah, I have to do something like that for sure. I agree with you on the hull and cap taking on a mind of their own once they've been apart. I was checking out jc55's thread and he has done some support work too. I asked him a bit about it and he gave me some info. Im gonna have to follow suit. I was really hoping to be able to just keep the hull on the trailer though because I really don't know how I would remove the hull from the trailer. Thanks Daniel1947.

 

[maryhannaj]

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Hey everyone. I didn't get much done at all yesterday but some clean up to make it easier to move the hull around. But tonight I got her tied up and lifted. I was pretty worried at first but everything worked out great. No creaking or popping or anything.
So first I tied the ropes and hung the ratchet straps.

 

[maryhannaj]

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After that, I started with the stern and went from side to side working my way forward bringing it up 3 cranks at a time and before you know it, up she went. Ha-ha!

 

[maryhannaj]

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I was also a bit worried that the console wouldn't lift high enough to let the stern of the hull pull underneath of it, but it turns out that I have plenty of room for the move.
So tomorrow or the next day I will be bringing it back down onto some work stands and get moving from there.

 

[jbcurt00]

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Even if you don't intend to make any changes to the cap, now that it's separated from the hull it'll never be easier to check the under/backside for stress cracks or backers for cleats & anything else you intend to bolt/screw down onto the cap that need to be replaced or further protected from water intrusion....

Good work lifting the cap

 

[maryhannaj]

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Thanks jbcurt00. There are already a few things I have found that need fixing. But first I have a whole lot of foam to scrape off of the underside to get a good look at everything unless you can give me some pointers on finding defects without removing all of the cap foam.
I really don't mind doing it, but if there is a good way, I would love to know it. I really just want to be thorough. Thanks for the comment about getting the cap lifted, I was a bit worried about my engineering skills but it seems to be holding really stable right now at least.

 

[budski]

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You're really motoring there, great work, at this rate you'll be finished by Xmas.

 

[maryhannaj]

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Thanks budski. That would be pretty nice if I was finished by christmas, but then I would be chompin so hard at the bit to run it that I would be out on the ice with a pick-axe trying to make some water, ha-ha!
Now it's just time to throw together some stands to drop the cap onto without dropping the cap. Man, I hope that doesn't happen!:faint2:

 

[maryhannaj]

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I didn't manage to get much done today except for throw together the stands that the cap will sit on. I suppose thats pretty necessary but I wish it was actually sitting on them right now. Oh well, I guess I will see what tomorrow brings.
I basically threw the stands together the same way I did the uprights on the gantry. Only this time I attached 2x6's flat across the the top with some long countersunk screws. I will attach the cross legs to the uprights of the stands once I know for sure where they need to be for under the cap clearance.