1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

[TheCamel]

Re: 1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

That would be great, but I am limited on Airman at the moment, Base is going through the deployments right now, guys coming in, and guys going out, manpower in the shop is down to about 40% little more than a handful. Stupid cutbacks are killing me at work. Believe me I hear what you are saying about cheap labor though, been many a cookout at my house following a project. Some of the most unskilled contractors you can get, but at the same time, they take away a little more for their future. Landscaping, remodeling, engine pulling, you bet I normally have a crew here at the house. But right now they need to spend as much time with their families as they can get. If I had to buy all the wood, then it would be a different story. At least this way I do not have to write a hazard report on 4 guys getting back pain.

 

[oops!]

Re: 1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

forget the marine grade ply....the only thing different is it has less voids between the plys......

pressure treated wood is great.....but poly will only stick to it if it is totally dry.......totally......needs to be dryed for over a month....

ac grade...is just fine......i dryed mine for 2 weeks......but it would have worked with 2 days drying......

just make sure you totally cover the wood with resin and glass...(if u use poly)

the cap can be lifted off by putting 2x4s under it and lots of man power.....you just need it to get high enough so the floor of the bow section clears the hull height......its not that heavy......6 guys can do it easy...

just get 2 really tall guys to lift the bow.

the crane i made, was to lift the whole hull....it wasnt hardly used to take the cap off.

cheers
oops

 

[oops!]

Re: 1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

as far as back pain for the forces.....if they cant lift a deck......


we are all in for a world of hurt !

its really light.....2 people could lift it and keep it steady......(but not off the boat.....they could just lift it)

btw..for the crane.....i used 2 cheap come alongs....see the transom removal pics in the extension thread..... and aircraft cable.

cheers
oops

 

[TheCamel]

Re: 1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

Oops, was wondering when you might chime in on this? Guess I have my answer now. Right now I only have myself and another guy, so the crane system will be the better idea. I have the wood, and its not going to take long to build it. With the pully system I got today, it was less than $20 in materials to be able to lift this without a whole lot of manpower. I also have to be able to set it down in a pickup, move it behind my house, and lift it out of the truck again. and I will be able to do this all again when I need to put it all back on. Wood was just sitting in the basement waiting on something to do with it anyhow. My little 12hp Craftsman tractor is going to be the muscle in this outfit. Pulley system will be hooked up to the rear of it, and we will use it to pull the cables. Most of the other parts were also laying around the house. So no major expense was laid out . Recycling

Cool, I got promoted today too

 

[TheCamel]

Re: 1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

Day started with a bang, all the wood was brought out, we had the plan, all the hardware was ready. Just needed to start.


Off we go, posts are being constructed

So we get the posts constructed, get everything setup. 2 pulleys, 3/16 wire rope, swedges, eye bolts, and get everything in place.

Hook up the garden tractor to the wire ropes, as soon as the cap gets 2" off the top, the entire thing shifts, we ended up moving the posts, moving the spreader bars, and readjusting the load about 5x, whomever said this thing could just be lifted off by 4 guys is nuts! with 3 and a pulley system we fought it for over 3 hrs. The garden tractor just did not have enough weight, so the truck was swapped in, problem was murphy started tipping the posts over. So we had to tie off the top of the A frame to my 2500 suburban, just to get the cap as high as you see in the pictures.

 

[TheCamel]

Re: 1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

My bald head...

 

[TheCamel]

Re: 1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

 

[TheCamel]

Re: 1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

Well there you go, from start to finish, just over 7 hrs with 3 guys. I will be planning a whole different scheme to put this thing back on, to include more manpower, and a lot less heat!!! Delaware had one of those record breaking heat waves today, Temp was over 90? and with the heat index, it was close to 100? today. So there is some reason as to why the job took so long, I think I lost close to 7-9 lbs in water weight today.

Hopefully tomorrow I will have time to start cutting into the floor and see how bad this really is.

 

[TheCamel]

Re: 1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

Well, I had to skip a day, and spend it with the wife. Took her to breakfast, and out around the town, because it was her birthday on Sunday, and I did not want to upset her about working on the boat.

So this evening after getting through the 3rd day in a row with 95? temperatures, we got to work on the boat. I only cut a small section out, as I did not want to get it too weak before I was ready to take measurements.

You never know what you are going to find when you open something like this up, what I found was pine boards, not plywood used for the stringers. The floor looked to be actual marine grade, but I am not sure how they constructed it, but in the front section we found wet fiberglass (tacky still) under the foam. The stringers were covered with a sheet, but it was never smoothed in. nor was it sealed. I believe most of this was a blown in mix, and done fairly hastily.

Not sure what this stuff was, found it between the hull and the foam in the front stringer box.

Well there you have it folks. I would not want to do this professionally thats for sure. This was about 2 hours worth of work, being done by 2 guys that do not even have a clue about what they are doing...

 

[TheCamel]

Re: 1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

Well the boat has to go on hold for a little while, 12 hr shifts at work will do that...

Have not been able to do much on it all week, nor will I have time next week. Not to mention I have not been able to update this all week due to Comcast taking forever to fix my net connection.

 

[oops!]

Re: 1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

camel....how was it in there? it doesnt look too bad..?

and btw....i think no klu, robj, and i moved my cap.....but not off the boat..

cheers
oops

 

[TheCamel]

Re: 1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

Looks like the rear of the boat has the most damage. Landau just did not get the wood sealed well enough. I probably could have held off doing this for a season or 2, but since I was in there, figured we would go ahead and fix it now. I also am not too keen on the pine that is in there, would rather have something a little stronger on the floor.

For those of you asking if this is all worth the effort. Look at it this way. When the project is done, I will have something that I know has no major structural problems, the repair was done to my standards because I did it. And that once complete I will have less money in this boat, than a comparable boat in this condition.

May not get to enjoy it until next season, but the family is having fun tearing into it

 

[Coors]

Re: 1986 Landau Bowrider restoration

Pine is strong.