1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

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1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration - plywood stringers

1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration - plywood stringers

Dumb question on the plywood -- I don't think I will get a sheet long enough for stringers. How should I connect 2 pieces to get the length I need?
 

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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration - plywood stringers

Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration - plywood stringers

Dumb question on the plywood -- I don't think I will get a sheet long enough for stringers. How should I connect 2 pieces to get the length I need?

Stagger the planks to make the length
 

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Glassing in stringers - 7500 E-Glass 10oz - 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

Glassing in stringers - 7500 E-Glass 10oz - 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

Well, got caught up with work and haven't done much in 4 or 5 weeks. last week I got the stringers in with PL adhesive and I am ready to glass them in (pics to follow tomorrow).

I found 54 yards of 7500 E-Glass 10oz plain weave fiberglass cloth on craigslist and bought it for $50. Can I just use 2 layers of this stuff or do I need a layer of mat 1st.
 

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Stringers finally in!!

Stringers finally in!!

Been a while, but finally did some work over Father's Day weekend. Stringers are glued in with PL and glassed with poly resin, matt, and 7500 E-glass.. I still need to do the final coat of waxed resin. I should get to the deck next week.

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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

your glass job looks just fine. Glad to see that big drain hole in the tank hold. Sea Ray did not provide a very large one in mine and it clogged and held water. Mine has a V6 and mounts are different but basically similar to yours. Cant tell in the pics but be sure to have some drainage from the foam areas on the sides so that water can get to the bildge. I left small gaps in the stringer bed (the PL) about every 2 feet or so.
Anyway I see you doubled your stringers I did the same. I also used a 3" lip on top like an L to give me more deck mounting surface so the screws would be in that piece instead of the stringer. worked well I am updateing my thread later to night. Been fighting health issues but I am getting this project done.

Keep going your work looks good. Lets hope to see these boats in the water soon.

Later
LR
 

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Where to put seat pedestal?

Where to put seat pedestal?

OK. It's going slow, but still moving along. I am going to be putting the seats in this week. Been watching Craigslist and I found a pretty nice back to back lounge seat from a newer Bayliner ($75) and a single seat with the pedestal ($50).

Installing the lounge should be a no brainer. I will just put it where the old one was. However, I am not quite sure where to mount the pedestal for the other seat. Is there a standard distance from the steering wheel? Does anyone have pictures or measurements?
 
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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

Thanks to LR Custom and the measurements he sent me, I was able to get the stern seats in today. I used PL to glue them in and will glass them in tomorrow.

The 1"X4" on the port side is just a brace. I will remove it when I glass the seat in.

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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

SD,
That is really looking good. Nice and clean. hope mine looks as good. Not much done on it this weekend it was just to hot. Need a shop. I keep clicking my heels and sayin "there no place like a good shop" but nothing happenss.LOL

Keep up the good work.

LR
 

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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

Can you estimate the current total you have used to date of fiberglass, resin, lumber, adhesives and foam? Are there other materials not listed that put a dent in the budget? I'm about to get started on a similar endeavor and need some ballpark numbers so I neither grossly over buy or under buy. The glass buy on Craigslist was fortunate - I never see great deals like that in time. I am going to ask the same question of lrcustom and a couple of others. Thanks for sharing your pictures and descriptions.
 

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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

SD:

I have the 87 version of the same boat, even the same upholstery colours, only mine was in a far worse state than yours.
The stern supports were in really bad shape. Left uncovered in the Texas sun for too many years.
Do you have detailed pictures of the stern supports and the piece that goes across the stern and over the engine? It's the piece that is below the upper padded piece.
Are you going to replace all the stern internals the way they originally were?

You're doing great work. Keep it up and keep the pics coming.

Glenn.
 

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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

Hooks,

Here is what I have spent so far. I am sure I forgot a few minor things, but this should cover most of it.

$120 Wood - (3) sheets 1/2" CDX plywood, (6) 8' 1x 6, (6) 8' 1x 4
$21 Foam - (noodles to deaden sound -- not really for flotation)
$50 Fiberglass (cloth) - (50 yards by 36? -- got lucky on craigslist)
$20 Fiberglass (mat)
$240 Resin - (7 gallons poly)
$30 Bilge Paint
$150 PL/Misc tools - (adhesive, sanding discs, sawzall blades)
$100 Carpet & glue - (Home Depot special)

Total $731

I borrowed a respirator so I saved a few dollars there.

I went with the noodles because they do not sell the foam sheets here. I guess they are for basements and other uses we do not have in CA. The foam is not structural on this boat.

Too bad you live so far away. I would gladly sell you the fiberglass. I have a bunch left.

SD
 
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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

Glenn,

Sorry, I do not have pictures of the supports. I cut them all out without taking pictures.

However, I think this is the piece you are talking about. It is 78" wide X 14.75" high with a 32" X 11.25" cutout in the middle (bottom). Hopefully it is the same on the 1987.

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I am going attach this to the stern seat bases and glass some braces in as I go along. The stern area pics LR posted on your thread show the supports that are attached to the seat bases. Those are the main supports for this piece.

I will take pictures as I go. I should get to this part in the next couple weeks (...but I was supposed to be done with the entire project by May so you never know).

SD
 

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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

Thanks SD, this gives me an idea of what this part originally looked like. It was virtually destroyed on mine due to rot.
I now have a much better picture of how things were put together for later this fall when I start my odessy.
I'll be looking forward to more pictures of yours. Your work is very well done. I hope mine will turn out as well.
BTW how tall did you make your stingers at their tallest point. Mine were totally shot as you can see from the photos on my thread.

Glenn.

Glenn,

Sorry, I do not have pictures of the supports. I cut them all out without taking pictures.

However, I think this is the piece you are talking about. It is 78" wide X 14.75" high with a 32" X 11.25" cutout in the middle (bottom). Hopefully it is the same on the 1987.

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I am going attach this to the stern seat bases and glass some braces in as I go along. The stern area pics LR posted on your thread show the supports that are attached to the seat bases. Those are the main supports for this piece.

I will take pictures as I go. I should get to this part in the next couple weeks (...but I was supposed to be done with the entire project by May so you never know).

SD
 

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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

SD:

Can you PM me about the fiberglass. I travel to Los Angeles quite often.

Thanks.

Hooks,

Here is what I have spent so far. I am sure I forgot a few minor things, but this should cover most of it.

Wood $102 (3) sheets 1/2" CDX plywood, (6) 8' 1x 6, (4) 8' 1x 4
Foam $21 (noodles to deaden sound -- not really for flotation)
Fiberglass (cloth) $50 (50 yards by 36? -- got lucky on craigslist)
Fiberglass (mat) $20
Resin $240 (7 gallons poly)
Bilge Paint $20
PL/Misc tools $105 (adhesive, sanding discs, sawzall blades)
Carpet $35 (Home Depot special)

Total $593

I borrowed a respirator so I saved a few dollars there.

I went with the noodles because they do not sell the foam sheets here. I guess they are for basements and other uses we do not have in CA. The foam is not structural on this boat.

Too bad you live so far away. I would gladly sell you the fiberglass. I have a bunch left.

SD
 

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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

Glenn,

Just sent PM. Thanks for the compliment. It is nice to hear since I am very critical of my own work and mostly just notice the mistakes. Since I am new at this, there are a bunch.

SD
 

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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

Thanks! I was surprised initially by the amount of resin you and LRCustom used but there were a lot of square feet to seal and a lot of corners to fill. I think I will start with the 5 gallon kit and pick up more if I need it. I have about a half gallon of West 105 already so I'll have a little wiggle room. I've restored a couple of tractors and there is a moment when you realize you have "turned the corner" - for you was that when you started glassing or some other point?
 

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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

The resin goes fast. The wood really sucks it up. Then as you add layers of glass fabric it goes even faster. I also used a lot of resin when I mixed it with filler and used it as a putty to fill corners and sharp angles before glassing.

I still have quite a bit of work ahead of me, but I think it felt like I had turned the corner when the demo work was done and I started actually building. I was very surprised at how much time went into cutting and grinding and cutting and grinding and...well, you get the picture.
 

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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

While I was waiting for some PL to dry, I decided to try something I have been reading about on many different threads.

I have been trying to decide what to do with the exterior paint when I am done with the interior work I have been doing. Most, if not all, of the paint above the water line used to be red. It is now a very dull and chalky pink. I have tried lots waxes and less expensive restore gels/liquids and have not found anything that would bring back even a resemblance of the old red color.

I realize that the best (and most permanent) way to bring back the old color and shine would be to either repaint or sand, cut, buff, and polish (I might have that a little off, but I am sure you get what I am talking about).

I don't have a lot of time or money right now, so I decided to go with something a little less permanent than other fixes. Although it sounded a little weird, I tried using Vaseline on it and I am very pleased with the results.

The Vaseline brought back a real nice red that appears to match the original color pretty well. It shines pretty nice and actually has a reflection now. I know it is not permanent, but even if I have to reapply every couple of months, that is OK with me.

It is quite obvious which side is which here.
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I wiped the Vaseline on in about a minute. I let it sit in the sun for about 5 hours (I have read that it works even better if left on overnight or even for several days) and then wiped it off and buffed a little with a towel (another 2 minutes).

I will certainly be doing this to the entire boat now. Per the other threads, I will leave it on for a couple of days before removing it and then put a coat of wax on to seal it in.

The funny part was when I saw a friend of mine in the store while I was buying the Vaseline. He looked in my cart and saw that I had a case of beer and a big tub of Vaseline. He didn't ask any questions, but gave me a pretty weird look. As I got in my truck, I died laughing thinking about what he must have thought I had planned.

To all of you Vaseline haters -- I do realize that this is not the best or "correct" way to restore a finish. Please keep in mind that I paid $1,200 for this boat and it is what it is. What little time and money I have is being put into the structure and engine. If I can get rid of the embarrassing pink, chalky color for an hour of work and less than $10, well it was a no-brainer to me. My teenagers will appreciate it too. They don't know the inns and outs of paint restoring, but will certainly no longer be embarrassed of their pink boat.
 

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Re: 1986 Sea Ray Seville Restoration

SD,
I too did a vasoline check in the same area as you did and I am thrilled by the result. My son, a Wyotech grad, spent 2 days wet sanding and compond buffing the starbord side of the boat. He got rid of the pink but the finish was not what I expected. It was no where near the original red color. Friday night I put the vasoline on it at the stern, let the sun have it all day saturday and washed the area on sunday and as of this morning that area looks great. Gonna let the sun have it all this week just to be sure but It appears that the 2 dollars of vasoline does a whole lot better and faster finish restore than my thousands of dollars I spent for my son to go to School and learn how. Makes ya wonder a bit. He did learn how to run a paint gun good so no complaint in that arena LOL.

LR
 

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Hey LR,

Funny. Glad to see it worked for you too. Has the heat out there let up enough for you to make any progress on your restore (besides getting the red back, which is huge)?

SD
 
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