1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

[lil buggy]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

^^^^^ like the dowell trick.
and remember if he can get those lights waterproofed well, he does have cleare water in michigan than we do on the mighty ohio,lol

however, that being said, BSnB i think i remember you have a bottom lip around your swim platform if you traced the lights around the sides and the back hiddin tight to the trim it would prolly light up the water just as good or maybe better, the reflection up and out would be my concern there, however it would most definately give them more longevity. and keep the growth off of them.

all in all if they can be made safe under the water then all is game: chines, stern, the possibilities are endless
the right covering could verry well do the trick, just gotta have no air,,, clear epoxy fillin the channel, might just be the ticket
the underwaters i got are burried deep in a clear, epoxy of some sort.
i would say take a few 3 light sections and see if you can come up with anything if it dont work, you just lose a few inches
sounds like a cool project

 

[BSnB]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

Thanks for the tips, chriscraft! That dowel trick sounds like a good one! I was successful veneering this top, but when I try to apply that same veneer to the bulkhead walls, I'll try that. Wait, did you say apply the glue to both the table top AND the veneer? Ut oh. :facepalm: Well, it seemed to stick pretty good and maybe the varnish and the bar-top epoxy will prevent it from peeling up. Good idea about cutting the corners square. I looked at the table and the outside corners would be pretty easy to do. it's the inside rounded corners I worry about a little more.

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You can see one of the inside corners here. Squaring that off, or rather angling that off, will take a pretty good chunk of table away. I suppose that by putting a bullnose piece back on it won't make much difference. I also need to maintain sufficient length after the curve along that southwest edge in order to attach the hanging bracket to that edge. I think it will be ok as the bracket would start about an inch in from where the curve flattens out.

I agree when you say that making this new edging Mahogany will give some pop to the teak veneer. Finding real Mahogany in a one inch half-round is pretty spendy. My thought originally was to do it in Oak and stain it to a Mahogany color before varnishing. Have you had any experience trying to get that color up out of Oak? My other table top was Poplar and the Mahogany stain left a finish with more red in it that I care for.

 

[BSnB]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

I was finally able to get up to the boat today. I talked to the top mechanic and he confirmed what I feared. My bottom paint needs to be removed and redone and he suggested that I first apply an epoxy barrier coat before putting the anti-fouling on.

Having watched your efforts, chriscraft, I am not looking forward to stripping this stuff off. He suggested that the easiest way was to use a paint stripper. They'll lift the boat off the trailer for me and put it up on stands to I can get to it. I am really not looking forward to this.

Here's pics of the stern...
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and a couple down the side...

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That white stuff you see is growth and dirt that didn't come off when they power washed last year. Some of it is where the bottom paint has worn through. The hull looks solid with no blisters, so that's good news.

 

[BSnB]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

I've got some steps down to the swim platform that are teak and mounted to stainless rails. I thought, as long as I was there, that I'd take those teak steps off and take them home so I can refinish them. Not thinking things through, as usual, I removed the bolts that ran trough each end of the step, through the stainless rail and out the back side.



You can imagine my frustration when you look at the photo. The rail actually penetrates the step through a perfectly precise hole in the wood. Sliding the step up or down does no good because the big square feet which attach this set of steps to the boat are welded at each end of the rail.

If you examine the step really closely, you'll see that the end of the step is slotted all the way through to where the hole is drilled in the step. That slot extends beyond the hole another 4 or 5 inches. It appears that maybe the step was installed on the rail by prying that slot open sufficiently wide to accept the rail until it snapped in to the hole. My fear is that, because of its age, the teak will split if I try now to pry that gap open enough to get the step off.

Any thoughts?

 

[r.j.dawg]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

Is it possible that the step is made out of two pieces that have been laminated together?

 

[BSnB]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

It doesn't look like it, dawg. It's pretty clear that it was sawed through from the end, through the hole and then extended down the middle length of the step maybe 4 or 5 inches past the hole.

 

[r.j.dawg]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

It was just a thought. A friend of mine had an older Carver aft cabin that had a ladder from the aft deck down to the swim platform and one of his steps split in half length wise. It was a tongue and groove joint.

 

[lil buggy]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

I was finally able to get up to the boat today. I talked to the top mechanic and he confirmed what I feared. My bottom paint needs to be removed and redone and he suggested that I first apply an epoxy barrier coat before putting the anti-fouling on.

Having watched your efforts, chriscraft, I am not looking forward to stripping this stuff off. He suggested that the easiest way was to use a paint stripper. They'll lift the boat off the trailer for me and put it up on stands to I can get to it. I am really not looking forward to this.

Here's pics of the stern...
View attachment 137714View attachment 137715

and a couple down the side...

View attachment 137717View attachment 137718

That white stuff you see is growth and dirt that didn't come off when they power washed last year. Some of it is where the bottom paint has worn through. The hull looks solid with no blisters, so that's good news.

BSnB,
awesome that you got aout to spend some time with your summertime friend
cant see any of your pics, however you gatta get one of those sanders with the film disks. seems like when chris got the right combo he sailed thru it. hangin up with no trailer should make it alot easier and quicker.

although you prolly have the original steps for the ladder, put on slid up and welded in, i agree with dawg, the quicker way to handle it would be to mate 2 pieces around each rung and sandwich together. i am no expert however so lets see what everyone thinks

congrats on the trip

 

[25thmustang]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

Honestly I have no idea how they put those steps on. My best guess would be slid on then weeded. You could try and refinish in place, and might have success depending how you plan to refinish.

 

[BSnB]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

I think you're right in the end, mustang. Sanding them and finishing them in place is probably my remaining option. I'll oil them anyway because the are exposed to the sun and need to be non-slip. Sure would have been easier to do if I could get them off though.

I really do not look forward to stripping and sanding the bottom. I'm surprised that chriscraft254 hasn't called me a baby yet for whining so much about it!:facepalm:

 

[chriscraft254]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

i think you're right in the end, mustang. Sanding them and finishing them in place is probably my remaining option. I'll oil them anyway because the are exposed to the sun and need to be non-slip. Sure would have been easier to do if i could get them off though.

I really do not look forward to stripping and sanding the bottom. I'm surprised that chriscraft254 hasn't called me a baby yet for whining so much about it!:facepalm:

big baby

 

[lil buggy]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

and i didn't see it coming,,,lol:facepalm:

now now, it's time to get r done
whens the next time you will get to see her?

 

[BSnB]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

big baby

LOL...there it is! now all is right with the world!! I"m still gonna whine a little.

 

[BSnB]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

I'm just about finished with that table. I got the edge trim cut and installed. I found some 1 " flat Mahogany stop stock at Menard's while picking up the stripper I'm going to need. LOL...I didn't mean that the way it sounded. I wasn't picking up a stripper. I was buying paint stripper. :redface:

So, anyway, I cut the trim to fit...

 

[BSnB]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

I sanded it down some to blunt the edges and blend the corners and then wiped the table down with Acetone and applied the applique...

 

[BSnB]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

Success!!!

I wiped it down again and applied a coat of Spar Varnish over everything...





I think I'll need to apply one more coat of varnish to the Mahogany trim...



After the varnish cures, the final step will be to apply the bar-top epoxy finish. I'm curious to learn how easily this will go on. especially along the edge trim.

It's not perfect, but I'm pretty happy with the results!

 

[lil buggy]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

BSnB,

way cool man. u been busy, that looks great and i have table envy:facepalm:. those beveled edges look great, and you were worried
can't wait to see how that bar top stuff works out.
did you screw the trim on, or just glue n nail?


good job

 

[lil buggy]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

also forgot to mention,
also congrats on the uh,,,, stripper,,, lol hope it didn't cost more than you were thinking,,lol:facepalm:

 

[25thmustang]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

The table looks great! Glad to see progress on it. Can't wait to see it in the boat, and your next veneering project.

 

[lil buggy]

Re: 1987 28' Chris-Craft 283 Amerosport

while searching around i found these rgb strip tracks that are purpouse built,,,
http://www.superbrightleds.com/cgi-bin/store/index.cgi?action=DispPage&Page2Disp=%2Flight_bars-flexible.html&gclid=CM6vu86kh68CFUXc4AodyGCa_Q
it may help with your project not sure but