1988 "force" motor

RRitt

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Re: 1988 "force" motor

bottom line on force is simple.

If you plan to work on it yourself, you get a good motor to start with, and you are good about maintaining your machines then Force is an excellent choice. It is a very simple engine that distinctly favors industry standard parts, clearances, and tolerances whenever possible. You can have reliable power for about $50 per year.

If you intend to let the marina maintain it then force is a very bad choice. Dealer parts are scarce and overpriced. They will give your boat to the least experienced and least qualified mechanic on their staff while charging you exhorbitant amounts for routine maintenance. You'll spend as much or more maintaining it than if you bought a johnnyrude.

regarding dependability. About 90% of the threads relating to serious problems such as blown powerheads are during the mercury years (1992 and later). Very few of the threads are about chryslers. Of the threads that pre-date mercury most of them trace back to a $5 voltage regulator, fuel residue in carbs at start of season, a $10 fuel pump diaphram, or a mechanic who adjusted idle incorrectly. Take out those four items and this forum would be mostly mercury problems or dead air. The one thing about force is that it was primarily designed as a freshwater engine. It has too many different types of metals with far too much stainless in the area of swivel bracket and far too little zinc anode. I think it was scaaty *****fered to broken driveshaft. well .... it probably wouldn't have broken if someone had kept up their anodes. so if you run in saltwater then clean & grease religiously and always keep a shiny anode.
 

rudedude

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Re: 1988 "force" motor

To my understanding Bayliner bought Force motors from Chysler and used the force to make there boat "cheeper" to the public. In 1980 Mercury got Force from Bayliner but didnt start improveing them for a couple years.

I have a 1886 Force 125 on a 18. 8 Bayliner capri. The Force I have has been a good one. The only problem is we took it down to a repair shop to winterise and tune it up. They did fine. The first time out this year I was running full out at around 35 mph in the gulf of Mexico, the motor started missing and acted like it wanted to stall out, I back down to 1/2 speed and it picked back up and ran fine the rest of the day. Dont nee a motor stop on you when you are 20 miles off shore. I have only had Evinruds in the past and plan on putting one on this boat for a kicker until the Force needs a rebuild.

I may have had too much oil in the mix and it fouled out a little. Never had any trouble with the 125 until this.
 

RRitt

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Re: 1988 "force" motor

rudedude,

are your sure it needs rebuild? when was last time you put in a fuel pump diaphram? If recently then check for blockage in fuel delivery or 2stroke residue in carbs. Although possible that low compression in #1 could affect fuel delivery it seems unlikely that you would run smooth in bottom half of rpms if this was your problem. and, IMO, mercury didn't make improvements. They cut corners and severely compromised reliability of engine.
 

newbie4life

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Re: 1988 "force" motor

To my understanding Bayliner bought Force motors from Chysler and used the force to make there boat "cheeper" to the public. In 1980 Mercury got Force from Bayliner but didnt start improveing them for a couple years.

I thought Mercury bought out Force in the 90s?

I also though Bayliner's Ideas was to put Boat/Motor packages together in bulk, thus reducing the pricing. One boat, one motor. If you want a bigger boat, it comes with this motor, etc.

That's not even mentioning the whole 'pain in the butt' part of trying to figure out how much motor to put on a boat that you've never driven before.
 
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