1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

[rickryder]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Just curious..... what kind of seats are you installing? If it's pedestals I would add some support from outside to inside stringers where you installed the strip for the deck hatch

 

[Kotte]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Now that is a really good question Rick. I still don't know. I would like to have the pedestal seats but I guess I end up with the Wise back to back from Walmart. Can't beat the price $140.
What are you installing? Do you know how the bow backrests are attached to the hull?

 

[rickryder]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Your stringer IS an integral part of the Strenth of your hull. A Plain Butt joint is NOT advisable. Even though it will be "Sistered" a butt joint will be susceptible to the stresses of wave and wakes. I would highly recommend you try to attempt the scarf joint in some manner. IF you do just use a butt joint then PLEASE use Epoxy on the joint and NOT Poly resin. Epoxy is much stronger. If you do this then you have the issue of Poly NOT wanting to stick very well to Epoxy so you have to make sure NOT to get much squeeze out so your layups will work. A lot to think about

What if he did a splice like mine wood? I sistered both sides of the splice with 3/4 ply 36" laps....csm and poly resin between the layers, clamped and screwed together till cured? Mine was in the exact same spot and with out pulling the cap its a tough spot to do a scarf joint..... I know the scarf is the better way but where the joint is it's a bear to do.....

 

[rickryder]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Now that is a really good question Rick. I still don't know. I would like to have the pedestal seats but I guess I end up with the Wise back to back from Walmart. Can't beat the price $140.
What are you installing? Do you know how the bow backrests are attached to the hull?

I'm putting the captain chairs back in thats why all the support under my deck in that area....

The cushions should be attached with nuts...... open the bow seats and reach up behind the cushions.... you'll find them

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Like I said, If using a Butt joint I'd use epoxy on the lams and try to avoid any squeeze out. MUCH stronger!!! And YES the MORE overlap the better. One saving Grace here is the bulkead. It will really help take some of the stress. Guess this "Dumb Okie" is just being a little Paranoid.

 

[rickryder]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

On another note..... hows the fuel tank look?? any corrosion? I would pressure test it before you install it for good You will also want to be sure you have rubber strips under the tank to keep moisture for laying against the aluminum.... That's what makes them corrode...

 

[rickryder]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Guess this "Dumb Okie" is just being a little Paranoid.

Nahhhhhh your just concerned with safety and thats a good thing I agree that epoxy is the better choice and I should have done that..... Well hindsight..... I did glass the heck out of those areas with csm and biax

 

[Kotte]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Thanks guys, alot of information in a little amount of time . I just finished to cut in the ski locker deck and the seat supports. Now I don't know what to do. LOL. Need to wait for my payday so I can order my poly and glass.

This morning I got a Dewalt jigsaw, from Lowes, for $72 regular $99.

http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/028877/028877493107lg.jpg

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

That's what I LOVE about working on these old BOATS. A GREAT excuse to BUY MORE TOOLS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Kotte]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

LOL, don't tell me tell my wife. LOL. JK she is really supportive.

 

[rickryder]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Your next step is to get glass and resin.....then put a coat of resin and hardener on all of your wood and let it cure....then you can bed your stringers and bulks and glass them in.

 

[Kotte]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Still trying to separate my steering column, no luck what so ever.

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Gear Puller???

 

[Kotte]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

I tried a steering wheel puller, tomorrow I will go and get something from Auto Zone.

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Did you use some Penetrating oil and a BFH??

 

[Kotte]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Yes wood I did. I will soak it again tonight.

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Try a little heat, like a propane torch, and the BFH. It took a LOT of persuasion for mine to finally pop but it did. Make SURE to check that there is NO PIN or anything that is holding it on the shaft.

 

[Kotte]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Finally got the steering unit out of the dashboard

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Now, that just ain't right. No description of HOW??? What's up with that??????

 

[Kotte]

Re: 1989 Four Winns 200 Horizon Restoration

Sorry Wood.
Well I used a SW puller two M5 bolts a few washers, a lot f-words, and a lot of force. Thats it, easy. LOL
But still, I can't get the cable out of the tube by the engine. I guess I need to find another way to lube that cable.