1989 Wellcraft Monte Carlo ?'s and build

smokeonthewater

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thanks... shoot with twins you just do the same thing....................... twice lol
 

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well I had hoped to slide her off the trailer this weekend but duty calls.... gotta deliver a boat to wisconsin....

Looks like I'm gonna build some side bunks for this thing...... I have a thruhull 'ducer about an inch from a bunk and I figure it would be nearly impossible to avoid hitting the bunk with it without the side bunks
 

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Great work so far. You've definitely got a mad range of skills. The interior of the boat was in awesome condition (or did you redo it?).
Looking forward to launch day.
 

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thanks, interior has not been redone... yet.... It's pretty good but the v berth cushions will be getting reupholstered and the dinette will get thicker cushions eventually. I'll also be replacing the light fixtures with new ones.... at some point it will also get a nicer head installed

I replaced the impeller in the macerator.... there will be no pics of that.... ewwww

I have pulled one trim pump back out and I took it apart... I need to find a brush spring for the motor (oildyne)

I also pulled the coupler and surge brake master cyl all apart. I cleaned the master out and got the whole thing freed up and cleaned any rust out. I have ordered 50' of brake line and 12 fittings to re plumb the system.... With any luck the wheel cylinders will be in good shape.... Honestly, with my truck (you'd have to drive it to believe it) I really don't miss brakes towing this thing but for the sake of legality and for the remote chance that the boat comes loose from the truck I want working trailer brakes.

I still have to look into a reverse lockout of some sort as the trailer has none now.
 

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Well in a couple brief breaks in the rain I managed to get all (6 lines 35' total) of the brake lines made and installed.... PITA with the boat on the trailer..... Haven't bled em yet but the system did at least resist me pushing the coupler back for once..... good sign

I completely forgot to go shopping for a brush spring for the problem trim motor.
 

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I got the trim motor fixed up last week.... Today I fabbed up a new condensation pan for my a/c unit and got it dropped into the boat.... SHAWEET!
 

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well I finally got the a/c unit all hooked up including the seawater pump and it all works. time will tell if it is big enough for the boat or not tho... I also got my second trim sender/limit switch hooked up. Seems like there was something else too but I can't remember lol
 

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You replying to my post reminded me about your build thread. Good to see you're back on it. I really enjoy watching this one.
 

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It's always good to see them on the water. I only got to put mine in a couple of times last year and the second time, reverse gear went out before I could even test my Smartabs... I think I'm setting a goal of having her back on the water by July 4th, 2012.

Keep tuning her up and for God's sake register her... LOL...
 

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Well I rode up to Cincinnati today and re-titled/registered her in Ohio today.... $63 for 3 years vs nearly $400 for 1 year here.

I also drilled a 4 1/4" hole in her nose today to mount my windlass. I have just a few loose ends and some side bunks for the trailer to wrap up tomorrow and then it's back to the river for a much longer sea trial..... I'm REALLY down to the wire but I should be able to spend all weekend watching the fireworks from the water!
 

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well the side bunks haven't been built yet but the windlass is in... started scrubbing her down but it got too hot out.... bought 3 tubes of 8200 (sea sense version of 3m 5200) from wally world today and 2 were dried up near the opening and one turned out to be silicone that was on the wrong hook... UGH! luckily tho I still had enough 4200 left to seal the windlass to the deck.
 

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Sounds like some productive progress. I too have been getting to the little things, they make all the difference!
 

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yep... the little things are FAR worse than the big ones....

I spent two mornings on my knees scrubbing and then finally caved and took her to the car wash.... $27 in quarters later she is clean and shiny.

I also build some side bunks today and welded em on.... I used 1.5" square 1/8" wall and used the torch and muscle method of bending.... not perfect but it will do for now.... Next year I'll be cutting all of the bunks off and relocating them to better fit the boat and lower it about 6"
 
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SOOOOOO I thought I'd be on the water by noon today BUT..... after 12 hours of chasing details I'm hoping for noon tomorrow LOL..... I spend all day finishing up details... fixing little things like burnt bulbs, and pinched speaker wires, and putting all the things together that I had torn apart to facilitate the work I've done.... I mounted my sonar and vhf and I wired them in... I wired the fume detector to the bilge fan circuit (turns it on automatically).... I hauled a truckload of tools, trash, extra parts and just plain STUFF out..... I cut the hole bigger for and mounted the return air grill for the a/c.... Cleaned and vacuumed the interior..... and still lots to do.... as I said before..... UGH!

maybe that's what I should name her LOL
 

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Hi Kevin, really enjoying this thread. I noticed that you asked over and over about the dual muffler setup on the genny. What I have found is that replacing the stock muffler with a much larger muffler from a motor 3-8 hp larger is usually the max noise reduction you can get in the exhaust of an air cooled motor. If the genny is air cooled, then the rest of the noise is vibration and sound emanating directly through the cooling fin area, because there is no water jacket to help quiet the motor like in a car. Plus the whir of the generator itself is rather loud. If possible, additional sound BLOCKING can be done with simple 1/2" plywood panels around the genny, with generous open space to allow for air flow. The ply will block the sound. But you have to be sure it will not cause heat buildup too.

What I learned from trying to quiet my B&S 10 hp 5500 watt Coleman home generator:
- Replacing that small 3" x 6" muffler with a B&S 4" x 13" tube shape muffler reduced the sound of the exhaust about as much as can be, without impacting performance. At least a 1" in and out on the muffler matches the block threads.

- After a big muffler is added, the sound of the genny changes. It is no longer the roar of the exhaust, but instead the roar of the generator. Surprising how much noise a spinning generator makes. It has a cooling fan, along with other parts (brushes?) that makes me think that is why the actual generator suddenly becomes so loud. Kill one noise, and the next loudest comes out!

- The motor is air cooled on my generator, so it needs a good supply of fresh air. But that same air cooled motor is ringing out every compression stroke right through the aluminum finned block. No dampening at all. Will talk more about this later.

- The generator.... Sucker is spinning at about 3000 - 3600 rpm, depending on model. It is loud. It gets hot. It has cooling fans built in. It is noisy. Best plan of attack is to put a plywood sound barrier on one or two sides that face the interior of the boat, so that it still has good air flow, but sound is blocked in your direction.

- If you really want to get nit-picky, pull of the air shrouds from the motor, along with the starter housing, etc, Line them with same material sold at the stereo shops for the "boom boom" stereo systems kids put in their cars. This is the cheapest heavy duty sound deadener, and it should make a difference. I must warn you, I have only used this product inside outboard motor covers to reduce sound. It works very well. Not sure how well it will work that close to a heat source. The stuff is only about 1/4" thick. Maybe put it on the outside of the cooling tins???

Hope that helps.




Not sure if your genny is water cooled or not, could not tell from the pics. But if it is , then go with a single larger muffler that will afford the silencing you want, but not cause the back pressure that can burn valves and shorten spark plug life.

Just my experience. Your mileage may vary.... :D
 

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BTW, sort of to your point about dual mufflers inline.... yes it is a problem. Especially when the motor is running at its max. The exhaust gas gets harder to push out, causing two problems: 1) the motor is working harder to push out the exhaust, and therefore, the motor is producing less horsepower. That means you are getting less watts per gallon of gas. And 2) making it harder for the motor to push out the exhaust gas can overheat the exhaust valve ( a very real situation that is a big cause of repairs on motors just due to muffler damage that pinches off the exhaust). An over heated exhaust valve will slowly start to fail, causing poor fuel economy, and eventual complete failure of the motor, usually due to the valve head breaking off and punching a hole in the top of the piston. Day is done.

Regards,

Mark
So.... dual inline mufflers are bad, BUT duel parallel mufflers are cool (so to say) and will not impact performance. From your description I gather you have INLINE mufflers. Bad.
 

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thanks Mark..... I actually do have a water cooled genny .... The inline exhaust is REALLY REALLY quiet but the engine noise of the single cylinder onan on the other hand is quite loud.... at least for my liking..... I plan on doing some extensive sound deadening work on the engine room..... maybe next season.... My current genny is a 2500 watt onan and the "aj" engine is really tired and obsolete. I also have a 1000 watt onan with the same "aj" (although it runs at half the rpm's) with really low hours. I am either gonna swap the fresh engine to the bigger gen set which will require some machine work or I am going to swap in the smaller gen set and start shopping for a newer 3000-3500 watt set.

I also have decided to install the exhaust bellows for the engines and give quiet a try there.....


Today's update: I just ordered two new 105 amp marine alternators.... $126 shipped for the pair..... I have been running without working alternators and charging w the genset when needed but that sux..... 210 amps at 14 volt equals nearly 3000 watts.... I think I might actually be able to run the a/c on an inverter while cruising.
 

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Well I have a teeny little update.... I had installed a zipper in my tarp so I could get inside the boat. I ordered some florescent lights up and replaced the three fixtures in the cabin that were in poor shape..... it REALLY lights up nice inside now.

I may soon be recovering the V berth cushions also..... I may have to put her up for sale :( so I'm fixing up any rough edges.
 

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sorry to hear about the sale:(, i hope it's on your terms, best bet is to let her rip in june, before the sweet spot before the 4th of july .
all the best,
 
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