1990 Bayliner Capri 17' Full restoration

[wisemsc]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri 17' Full restoration

I finally figured out how to embed images!!!

 

[wisemsc]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri 17' Full restoration

More gutting. It is so shallow, it's hard to remove the deck without cutting into the hull. So far, I have one half inch cut through the hull. Suck!

I found a ton of wet foam and rot through the whole length of the stringers. I find it interesting how this boat has not been in the rain in years, yet there is still water under the foam.

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri 17' Full restoration

Welcome to the world of BayLiners. Lots of Foam and Usually WATERLOGGED!!!! I'm NOT CERTAIN but it appears that your foam MIGHT be somewhat Structural. I am NOT a pro and I could be wrong, but the stringer system in your boat and the way the Foam is integrated into the HULL makes me think that might be the case. You might want to contact Bayliner and see what they say about that particular Year and Model of hull. It it is Structural you will need to replace it with Pour In foam. Good news is, what you use will be better than what they used, and the way you install your deck should help to ensure that NO water gets below deck and is allowed to saturate the foam again.

 

[wisemsc]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri 17' Full restoration

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that it is structural as well because my boat only has two stringers and a few bulkheads. The foam really stiffened things up. Before I cut into the bow seats, I was hoping to add storage up there, but with my size boat, I would feel more comfortable re-filling with foam. Still need to read and research about the foam density differences and how to pour the foam without the expansion busting the wood, but first thing first, gotta finish cutting, grinding, and measuring.

 

[wisemsc]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri 17' Full restoration

I was thinking about the gas tank situation, and if I did want to install a permanent tank, I would have to raise the deck 1 inch to fit the shallowest tank available. Would this cause any problems structurally?

 

[Woodonglass]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri 17' Full restoration

I would NOT advise it. It could and would change things. To what extent...Only the Engineers that designed the boat would know for sure.

 

[wisemsc]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri 17' Full restoration

So... it has been just shy of a year since I started this project and I am just now getting back to it. Yesterday was my first day back on the demolition. I had to set the boat aside so that I could focus on studying for and passing my Certified Public Accountant's Exam. I am now a CPA! But with that and tax season behind me, it is back to the boat.

I ran into an issue when trying to remove more of the deck yesterday. This boat is sooo shallow at the edges, when I was trying to remove the deck on the starboard side, I ended up going through 6 inches of the HULL in 2 spots!!!!!! My heart sank!

I was using a circular saw and a reciprocating saw. I feel very limited with only these two tools. Is there some tool I am missing? A dremel seems to tiny to do any good and putting some kind of blade on an angle grind seems, well scary.

My current plan of approach is to use the reciprocating saw and slowly cut back inch by inch. After that, do I use the angle grinder and just grind away the remaining 1/2" lip of wood and fiberglass?

Everything I have read and watched just makes it look so easy. Doing it in real life is a different story.

The attached picture is of the starboard side facing the stern. You can kind of see how the deck rests on the hull at the sides. This is where I put my reciprocating saw right through it.

 

[Fingernip]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri 17' Full restoration

I found that a small electric chainsaw worked best for all the major cutting. Then a angle grinder with very low grit flapper disk cleaned up very nicely. Not 1 unintentional nick in the hull as the chainsaw takes some effort to first bite into fresh glass and once it goes through it has a very distinctive feel.

 

[93bayliner1800]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri 17' Full restoration

I used an angle grinder and a cut off wheel...it works very quickly! Just be sure to know how much room is between deck and hull. It is a hard process, but so well worth it! I just poured my foam today in my 93 Bayliner capri.

 

[wisemsc]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri 17' Full restoration

Here are a few more photos of the deck and stringer removal. I only have an hour or two every now and then to work on it, and man it takes a long time to get all this removed carefully.

 

[wisemsc]

Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri 17' Full restoration

Well, I have all the wood out of the boat. There was alot of rot! Next is all the grinding to clean glass. So my next thoughts are that I can either go ahead and order all the supplies to put in new wood and fiberglass or I can flip the boat upside down and start on repairing the gel coat and repainting. I was thinking about doing that next because the hull is so much lighter now and would be easier to flip.

My question is if I do repair the gel coat and paint it before the stingers and bulkheads are in, would the hull flex too much and crack the gel coat when I try to flip it back right side up.

Any way, here are some more pics.