1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

kenny26

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Hi all,

I finally decided to join the club, and I ripped into the deck of my 1990 Bayliner Capri 1700 after some in-depth reading of the books "Runabout Restoration" and "Fiberglass boat Repair". I'm only a day into the project, so this will be a running chronicle of my project.

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http://www.shareaproject.com/pages/projectThumbs,p,547,00.html
 

ezmobee

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Welcome to the madness! That's a sharp looking boat and will be worth the effort to fix up. Good luck with your project.
 

boat1010

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Lots of work ahead.. Been there done that. There are lots of people on here that can help if you have questions.. Good luck.. Very satisfying when you get done.
 

Friscoboater

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Welcome man. Looks like you are in this for good. Keep us posted with pictures.
 

kenny26

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Project update with today's progress, link is in my signature or on first post in the thread.

Reality has set in :eek: , Bulkheads are rotten, stringers have mush in them where attached to the bulkheads. Jury is still out on the transom. I was hoping to not have to remove the cap, but its starting to look like I need to pull the motor, and pop off the cap. I think I can get away with not pulling the cap if the transom isn't rotten. I'm starting to find it hard to believe there isn't any rot in the transom though.

I keep telling myself, don't worry you've got all winter... And then I find something else to add to the ToDo list.
 

kenny26

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I cut the deck back to the transom, and the rot hasn't gotten in the transom THANK GOD!!!

Now i'm torn whether or not to remove the Motor and Cap. I know I don't need to, but I can tell its going to be a pain grinding and fiberglassing underneath the splash well and the drive/passenger consoles. What do you guys think? Remove the Cap or not?
 

kenny26

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Day #5 (That I worked on the boat)

Restore is reaching terminal velocity!!! When I pulled the stringer, I found out the transom is rotten too :mad: Time to build a motor stand and prepare for a transom replacement. I'll probably finish the forward sections of floor to hold the hull in shape prior to pulling the cap and working on the transom.

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I bought wood today for the stringers and bulkheads.
I decided on dimensional 1x6's for stringers since that was what it originally had, and am going to used 3/4" AC plywood for bulkheads. Also, got 1/2" AC plywood for the deck. I figure I'll cut out the stringers, bulkheads and deck and let it start drying although it seems pretty dry already. Got to get a line on my fiberglass supplies next.
 

BobsGlasstream

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Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

Hello Kenny26,
I went through the same thing, (Well I'm going through the same thing.) :mad:
I cut everything away thought my transom was Ok too, pulled the motor and the bottom of the transom was mush. :redface:
The good news is you are past the denial stage and into the reality stage. :redface:
Looking at the pic's before the transom, I would have bet that it was gone too. Sorry.
I just got my transom pulled out today.
At least your in good company.:D
Good luck and keep us posted.
Bob
 

lowkee

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Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

Glad to see a fellow '90 Capri owner digging in! These are fantastically pretty boats.

No shock on the transom. Bayliner attached the stringers to the transom without glass, so one affects the other. Any back story and before pictures on the boat? Keep digging away, it gets easier once the digging ends.
 

kenny26

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Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

Glad to see a fellow '90 Capri owner digging in! These are fantastically pretty boats.

No shock on the transom. Bayliner attached the stringers to the transom without glass, so one affects the other. Any back story and before pictures on the boat? Keep digging away, it gets easier once the digging ends.

Unfortunately, I didn't take any interior pictures other than the shot of the rotten spot prior to ripping into her.

Back story: I've never owned a motor boat before, but I grew up taking fishing trips with my dad to Lake Vermillion in Minnesota. I've also been going to Wisconsin with my wife for 14 years now and watching people out on the lake and wishing I was too. We had a really rough beginning to our year when my wife delivered a baby in May with a rare congenital heart defect called HLHS (Hypo-plastic Left Heart Syndrome) that affects 3 in 10,000 babies. Basically the baby (Blake) was born with 1/2 of a normal heart. Blake had open heart surgery at 9 days old and my wife and I spent 5 weeks in the hospital with him fighting to keep him alive. On June 8th, Blake had fought with all his mite, but passed away from an overwelming infection. Since then we have made sure to cherish our other 2 children even more than before. We continue to grieve, but are trying to slowly heal...

One day in August (out of the blue) I told my wife that I'm buying a boat. I looked for 1 day and found a classified ad on EBAY that was close to me and I liked the way the boat looked and it was cheap. I did absolutely everything possible wrong. I didn't look hard, I didn't research, I didn't inspect it, PO told me it had a soft spot in the front of the deck (I didn't care). It was a total impulse buy, but it met my criteria at the time which was: 1. Cheap 2. Had an Outboard 3. Fit in the garage 4. Looked cool

I took the boat to Fox Lake in Illinois for a shakedown run and had a hard time getting the motor started, but once it started it ran fine for several hours. A few weeks later my wife and I took it to Lake Geneva, Wisconsin. We had a great time, but on our last day we were running wide open and when i backed off to come into the marina the motor died. A fellow boater who we had been watching college football with at a restaurant/bar across the bay ended up towing us into the Marina. We towed the boat home and after a bunch of investigation and help from the iboats forum I pulled the head and found a broken piston. I decided that since i plan on keeping the boat that I'd rather repower than rebuild the 20 year old Force motor (Think i over-revved the Force). I found a good deal on a 2007 Mercury that was leftover stock at bass proshops and put it on the boat along with a tach.

I had planned to replace the deck over the winter, but it has now spawned into a deck/stringer/transom replacement and a total restore with new seats etc...

So thats my story. Basically the boat has become my coping mechanism to help me deal with the death of my son, and I look forward to the end product which will allow me to enjoy time with my wife and kids (Beth 7 and Kenny 5 pictured above). I still don't have a name for the boat yet. I think because its so important to me and I haven't found a name meaningful enough yet.
 

ezmobee

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Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

Thanks for sharing your boat ownership story. You and your family will redoubtably have a great time with it. Now that you've got a reliable new outboard you can hit the water with your newly rebuilt boat without a care in the world :)

The good news is since you were thinking of pulling the cap anyway....doing the transom isn't that much additional work. Done properly, you can easily rebuild this boat even better than it was factory new.
 

kenny26

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Ok Guys, I'm struggling with what fiberglass resin and material to order. I've read everything on this site and I'm still confused.

I'm leaning towards using Poly resin since its cheaper and I really don't have a clue how much i'm going to need (my deck is only 65 square feet though so maybe epoxy would be worth it) Can epoxy be applied in colder temps than Poly? Do I still need to heat the garage if I use epoxy?

In the runabout renovation book, the author is saying to use a single layer of CSM on the top ofthe deck and tab it in with woven roving. This doesn't seem like enough, is it?

Also, what do you recommend for the stringers/bulkheads/transom. I think I saw one rebuild where they used 3 layers of 6oz cloth on the stringers. Is that typical?

For the transom, I'm assuming a layup of CSM,Ply,CSM, Ply, and then 2 layers of CSM. Is this reasonable?
 

Damifudo

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Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

I used epoxy on my transom repair. My boat guy said it with the extra money because of the extra strength and it bonds to the wood better than the Poly. Since your not using that much and it is a huge pain in the rear. Ues the best is what I say. As far as temp I am not sure. I would say if your above 40 in the garage you will be ok.
 

BobsGlasstream

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Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

Kenny26
If you go to US Composite web site theyn have a section for the amount of resin you should use for the glass you are using.
I know it was posted on here once too, but I don't remember which thread.
I just go to where I know it is.
Good luck
Bob
 

kenny26

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I built a motor stand and rented a cherry picker to pull the motor... I more step closer to splash down!

Motor is off now:

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kenny26

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Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

I took the cap off today. Decided to take it off and fix the transom first. Then I'll put it back on and finish the floors/stringers.

I built a structure out of 2x4s and pullies to lift the cap off. It was barely sufficient... I'd have used 4x4s if I had to do it again, but it got the cap off and cheaply. Bayliners have a shoebox joint between the cap and hull underneath the rub rail. I pulled the rubber out of the rub rail and drilled out all the rivets with a 3/16" drill, and there were several machine screws with locknuts too. A couple I had to grind the head off because they were inaccessable inside the floatation boxes. Then I just used a small prybar to break the seal between the cap and hull.
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Here is the hull. No more secrets in this boat :p It still needs alot of grinding/sanding to prep it for glass.
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The transom on these bayliner's was stepped and they have floatation boxes on each side of the transom.
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Next job is grind the glass off the transom and pull it out. Looks like they laminated a piece of 1/2" ply to a piece of 5/8" ply. Hopefully it will come out easily.
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Friscoboater

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Looks lie you are moving right along. Keep up the good work.
 

mikezohsix

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great progress!

be very careful of that engine stand. Looks like the center of gravity is just about even with the rear wheels. It could go over backwards. You might want to add an extension (like wheelie bars) that goes back towards the prop. No wheels would be required, just bring some wood down close to the floor behind the engine.
 

kenny26

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Re: 1990 Bayliner Capri restore in progress w/pictures now!!

great progress!

be very careful of that engine stand. Looks like the center of gravity is just about even with the rear wheels. It could go over backwards. You might want to add an extension (like wheelie bars) that goes back towards the prop. No wheels would be required, just bring some wood down close to the floor behind the engine.

I have already tested it, by trying to get it to tip with the engine on there. I can get it to tip, but it takes quite a bit of effort to get it to do so.
 
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