1990 Force 120 Prop Slippage

rodttu02

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Thanks in advance for anyone's comment, they're much appreciated!

Long story short, I was out last weekend going about 3/4 throttle and the boat all the sudden revved and felt like it went into neutral (didn't notice any noises or vibrations indicating that I hit anything). I then returned the control to neutral and slowly put it in forward gear. The boat will get up to about five mph and then start revving again. I was able to go a couple miles back to the boat ramp without issue at that speed. I also tested reverse at the ramp and it seemed to work fine (I was able to pull it off the sand at the beach area by the dock). So, my mechanic picked up the boat thinking it would be an issue of some sort of sleeve in the prop. However, as a part of his investigation, he drained the oil (or what should've been oil) from the lower unit. It turned out to be predominately water with some oil. He is under the impression that we have internal issues with the lower unit.

This post has two parts. First, does this sound like a prop issue, or a lower unit issue (or maybe both)? I know the water in the lower unit is a very bad thing and we're trying to figure out the source of that. Secondly, since the unit is not locked up and semi-functional, would it be a terrible idea to flush the unit, let it dry out, refill with oil, re-press the prop sleeve, and then just giving it a try. One place quoted me 370 plus parts total for a rebuild. The last thing I want to do is blow the unit up and create more of a parts cost.

Another follow-up question... How hard are these things to rebuild? I've always had a knack and love for taking things apart and putting them back together. I'm just curious if there are a multitude of special tools I may need that would make it cheaper to send it off.

Thanks so much!!!
 

foodfisher

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Re: 1990 Force 120 Prop Slippage

Both, a spun prop and leaking gearcase. Did the water/gearcase oil have any metal in it?
 

Frank Acampora

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Re: 1990 Force 120 Prop Slippage

Well, It could be a slipping rubber hub in the prop but it also could be worn teeth on the pinion and forward gear. Did the mechanic check the water/oil for metal chips? If it is worn teeth inside the lower unit, when you turn the drive shaft in forward gear and hold the prop, it will or might slip and you will hear the teeth crunching.

It is not difficult to rebuild a lower unit, but it is NOT cost effective unless you already have a gear pak that you are not using. At 300 bucks for the forward gear/bearing and about 100 for the pinion. It is simply cheaper to buy a good used lower unit. 370 for rebuilding yours sounds like a good deal but be careful: Are they putting in used parts? Are the replacing all the seals? Are the guaranteeing the lower unit?

Most rebuilds I have seen advertised cost way more than 400.
 
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