1990 omc exhaust manifold

acuraguy81

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I would like to know how I can check and make sure that both manifolds are in working condition? What can be done to inspect them? Can a machine shop do any thing special?
 

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Yes,

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I would like to know how I can check and make sure that both manifolds are in working condition? What can be done to inspect them? Can a machine shop do any thing special?

Ayuh,... You've got the 1 piece, "Batwing" manifolds,...
Like I said before, They're JUNK... Throw 'em Away...
Go to a 2 piece design, Up-grade...
You're puttin' in a new motor, Don't waste it...
 

acuraguy81

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Re: 1990 omc exhaust manifold

I am more concerned with spending the money. If had that kind of money to spend I just go get me a newer boat. Spending the cash which I dont have to buy 2 manifolds is the issue i understand they are junk but what do they do and why are they junk what do they do to cause problems and how do they do it?
 

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but what do they do and why are they junk what do they do to cause problems and how do they do it?
Engines in boats with enclosed engine compartments MUST have water jacketed exhaust systems or they will get so hot they'll set the boat on fire.

The manifolds are usually cast iron and are made for a LOT of different engines and applications.

Since most marine cooling systems (in pleasure boats) use raw (lake/sea) water for cooling they start corroding almost immediately during use......slower in fresh water than salt.......but they all will eventually corrode completely thru.

Problem is, you don't really know when that happens. You have to take them apart to inspect.

Hopefully :rolleyes: they clog (with rust) before they rust thru.

Clogging will usually cause overheating because the cooling water cannot exit efficiently and will reduce over all engine cooling.

Manifolds with removable risers can be inspected easily......the obsolete "bat-wing" type you have cannot easily be inspected (or at all) and when they fail, they start allowing water to get into the exhaust ports and into open exhaust valves. (They don't always clog completely before they fail)

If they start leaking and your engine has been shut down for the night, week, month, or the season is over, well you get the picture.

The longer the engine sits with water on 1 or more pistons the more severe the damage.

SO, they must be inspected and/or replaced on a fairly regular basis. If your boat has been run in fresh water all its life the manifolds/risers can last a "good long time". (mine lasted about 18 years or so...)

If run in salt, they can be rusty junk in 5 years or so...and in salt, you don't EVEN want to try to run them too long.....the consequences are a destroyed engine. I have heard of some people removing their risers every year as a regular inspection.....I would think you could get away with running them 2 or 3 years without inspecting.....Bondo?


Anyway, you can't easily inspect the "bat-wings" (or at all) and if you suspect they might be getting "thin" you shouldn't put them on a new engine. It sucks, I know. and the replacements aren't cheap.


There's not much cheap about boats I guess......
 

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Ayuh,....The Batwing manifolds are a Known Issue that leads to motor Failure...

I know of a 1/2 dozen V6s that were turned into Junk by 'em...
And these were Freshwater motors/ manifolds...
They have a tendency to crack, Unexpectedly,+ without reason...

I have a close friend who wouldn't spend the money for 2 piece units,...
He's had his motor out 3 times replacing rods,+ pistons...
He's put it back together with 3 different sets of that Trash(1 piece units)...
Last time cost 'im the Crankshaft,... Now he's Not boatin', but lookin' for Cheap 2 piece units...
While Boating is no doubt Expensive,... replacing motors ain't all that Cheap either...

If you're willing to sacrifice your brand new motor,.... Go ahead,+ Run 'em....
 

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WELL...I don't know if it's specifically the OMC batwing..or the Merc one piece you're referring to...but I have batwings on my OMC....the originals were on there for 15 years fresd/salt water use......no failure no rust through...I took em off and they still looked good but I replaced them to be safe...with another set...now you can't get em anymore...but what no one has said here is yes you can't take em apart like a 2 piece...but THERE'S NO GASKET TO LEAK...BIG ADVANTAGE...NEVER HAD A LEAK OR A PROBLEM...EVEN IN SALT...

Back when you could still get em....I got an extra set....to check em well you can do the test with the acetone that will tell you what you need to know....

If you look at water in the cyl threads...a LOT of the time...its that gasket that failed...I for one had great luck with the OMC one piece...wish they still made em...I never liked the idea of the health of the engine riding on that one little gasket...with 1/4 or less of sealing surface....
Why do you think...Merc went to the dry joint system....
I think there are no more one piece manifolds...simply because of COST...more complex to cast...
 

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I like the idea of "dry-joint" though.....makes everything simpler......

Maybe certain production runs of the 'bat-wings" were defective......no matter though. They're not available. That sort'of makes the decision for someone needing to replace them.

I would still be somewhat leery of using used manifolds on a new engine if I didn't know the history and I suspected them to begin with....
 

acuraguy81

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Re: 1990 omc exhaust manifold

Sounds good. I might try to find some newer ones or boat until i can get new ones. Also I bought the boat this year i know they could be 20 years old or newer. I will try the acetone trick to see what happens.
 
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