1994 150hp mariner backfiring

Johnt211

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Started engine for first time after winterizing. Engine runs rough and backfires. It also releases a “sneeze “ from Lower starboard side of motor from a valve that appears to be missing a hose. It’s not a fuel quality problem as I have it hooked to an external tank with new fuel and fuel line. I also took carbs off and cleaned them. Any help is appreciated.
 

Chris1956

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I would check the timing and then do a link and synch.

The missing hose...could it be the cold start primer or cold air valve hose?
 

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Thanks for the response. I will try to post a picture of the valve on the starboard side missing the hose. I will try timing it and post updates.
 

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Chris 1956,

I have the manual for this engine and looked up how to time this motor, however I am unable to wrap my head around it. Can you dumb it down for me?
also the valve that lets out the sneeze is under the starter. I can’t seem to post a pic. Thank you.
 

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If memory serves, there is a cold start primer under the starter. It would drain fuel from the top carb into the bottom two crankcases, to provide a choking action.

OK, lets just check the link and synch now. Remove spark plugs 2-6. Install them in their wires and ground their bases to the block.

put a timing light on spark plug #1 wire. Move throttle until carbs are ready to open, but closed. Turn ignition on.

Point timing light at black plastic flywheel cover. See thru window with needle, to timing decal.

Jumper starter solenoid and read timing light position on decal. it should read 0-8* ATDC,

Now advance throttle all the way. jumper starter solenoid and read timing light. It should read 21* BTDC,

Any deviation from correct timing can be caused by timing needle misadjustment (it happens) or by incorrect timing. Timing needle would need to be verified and timing would then need to be adjusted.
 

Johnt211

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I just picked up a timing light now. Going to give it a try when I get back. Thank you for the response. I will post updates
 

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Timing is usually the last thing that goes.out on an.outboard. Have you checked all the plug wires? Are they on the correct cylinder? Any abrasions? Rubbing against the block? Checked linkages all in good shape? Have you started the motor at night to see if you have any arcing? Are the carbs adjustable? If so have you followed the procedure for adjusting?
 

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Update, I did not get involved in timing the motor as it seemed above my skill level. So I started with taking the coils out and noticed that they have a piece of metal around them that a flat piece of metal from the negative post sits on. On Two of the six coils this metal that wraps around the coil was cracked. Could this be my issue?
 

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Not much help but I do not believe the timing would go out of adjustment during storage.-----Was fuel in the carburetors during storage ?----Was boat stored indoors ?------Checked for water in carburetors.----Picture of the valve that is missing a hose ?----Oil injection in service ?----Serial # of your motor ?
 

Johnt211

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serial# is 0g103709
Changed both damaged coils and still not running right.
oil injection was disconnected by previous owner. I’ve been mixing oil into gas for last 7 years. Engine is hooked up with new fuel and oil mix. I can’t seem to upload pic. The valve is bolted into starboard side of motor under the starter. It is a big bolt 15/16 with a a fitting on it to be able to put a hose on it. It sneezes a spray of oil out of this fitting spot at idle.
 

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I can not see your motor.----But I believe they used to have a fitting there to pressurize the remote oil tank.----Pictures needed.
 

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racer is right.. it needs ta have a brass plug (ace hardware) installed although a plugged piece of hose will suffice for now..

a backfire is usually a wiring problem (wired wrong, broken insulation, etc.) between switch boxes and coils.. and/or trigger wiring.. doubt your timin' changed while settin' up..
 

Johnt211

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Dukedog,
so that valve that is coming out the starboard side can be plugged to stop that puff of air?

mothers day today, so I don’t know how much time I can put into today, but going to change all spark plug wires and search for any damaged wires.

I’ll post findings.
thanks for all responses.
 

Johnt211

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Just an update, after wasting a lot of time and a few bucks trying to figure it out. Brought it to mechanic, he did a link and sync and I’m back in business.
thanks for all the replies.
 
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