1995 150 Ocean pro not engaging n reverse

crazy charlie

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I had to slightly adjust upper cable at motor in the spring because it was partly engaging in reverse but not fully.Engaged perfectly after adjustment,only made a few turns of adjuster.Doing the same now but wont fully engage after further adjustment.How do I manually engage in reverse to isolate problem ? Thanks Charlie
 

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Disconnect the shift linkage from the shift coupler, then see if it will go into F-N-R while running. Obviously do this out of the water, and dont get your fingers caught under there!!!!

Have you found any chunks or big metal shavings in last seasons gear oil?
 

crazy charlie

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Thanks..oil was very clean and magnetic drain screw had no shavings on it.While running it shifts into fwd and neutral perfectly and tries to reverse but wont actually engage.I disconnected and tried to engage by hand while running but it felt like it really had to be pushed by something other than my hand because of how difficult it felt .
 

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Did it engage into F while running? You may have to slide a small screwdriver into there so you can actually activate the linkage. Does it grind or just not budge at all when trying reverse? Reverse is normally harder to engage than forward is by hand. It sounds like you may have the shift linkage cable going bad. The way you can tell is that if you adjust it really far one way it will shift fine into one gear and not the other. It loses that"sweet spot" to shift into both gears as it stretches out over the years and has too much slack to perform both ways.

How long have you had this motor? Worst case scenario is that your clutch dog in the L/U may be worn out of service. I have seen in the past, where people will wear out the forward side of their clutch dog and then flip it over and keep the "bad" side facing reverse. Normally forward will wear out first. So if you know that this has not been performed we can more than likely rule this scenario out. (I think "flippin the dog" is a ridiculous practice, because the cost of a new clutch dog is minimal considering the labor required to remove it.)
 

crazy charlie

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Reverse is clunking like it is trying to engage and fwd is smooth.Reverse sounds like someone that is moving the shifter too slowly.Tried to adjust cable all different ways and fwd is still smooth and reverse is trying but wont engage.When I pushed it by hand trying to engage I could feel the clicking of the gears in my hand so I know it is close to engaging.
 

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How long have you owned this motor? I am trying to figure out the odds that someone has flipped the dog on this gearcase.

Unfortunately at this point it sounds to me like your clutch dog has crapped the bed. See part # 38 on this diagram. That is what pops the gears into F or R. It is softer than the gears so it wears out quicker. Maybe one of the head honchos on here has a different idea, but I'm afraid that I think you need a new clutch dog.

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crazy charlie

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thanks.I have owned the motor for 10 years and bought it off the orig owner so I am thinking it is not likely but who knows.
 

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when was the last time the LU was off? Maybe the shift rod got moved when it was off!!
 

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thanks.I have owned the motor for 10 years and bought it off the orig owner so I am thinking it is not likely but who knows.


Well that's good news. Larry is right did you unscrew the shift shaft at all the last time you had the LU off?
 

crazy charlie

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No guys nothing to do with shift shaft.Didnt have the lower off this year and has been engaging perfectly for months.WHAT I DID YESTERDAY is push a metal lever next to where the cable are secured while the motor was trying to engage in reverse and it engaged into reverse.Had to push with a screw driver because the vibration of it trying to engage was too harsh for my fingers.I guess I should assume that the cables are not pushing far enough to fully engage??? They are adjusted all the way open.Charlie
 

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Cables do wear out internally and then will not push back far enuff.----AND no on most big outboards today you can not flip the clutchdog around.---Not sure where those ideas come from !
 

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Common problem...The upper motor motor mount bolts are loose/missing and allows engine to lean backwards and bend crook in shift shaft, I fix at least 2 of these a year.
 

crazy charlie

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I will take a look.As I stated earlier,all was fine with shifting.I had to put it in reverse pretty hard to avoid another boat.Reverse engaged and stopped the boat but soon found that the plastic shift linkage broke the end off with the violent shift....I guess. Replaced the linkage and cotter pins and have been unable to get it to shift into reverse unless I manually push it into reverse.
 

crazy charlie

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reverse problem turned out to be the shift/throttle cable.Had them replaced and I am back in business.Needed to take it from a tech that insisted that I needed to replace the gearcase , and bring it to a tech that started in a more sensible place....the cable . Hmmmm let me think for minute $1500 gearcase + labor or $75 in cables + labor .. Hmmmm ,where to start Lol
 
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