1995 Sea Nymph

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buckmaster221

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Hello Boaters!

This is my first post on this site. I have been doing a lot of reading on here and talking to my local shop about materials needed to replace the deck in my boat.

I "inherited" a 1995 Sea Nymph from my dad who due to medical problems shouldn't be on the water by himself anymore. The boat hasn't seen water in 3 years and hasn't been covered for longer than that. Needless to say, the deck is shot.

I thought I was going to have the boat completed already but due to some technical difficulties imposed by our friends in Washington :mad:, it is going to take longer than expected. For those of us who are old enough to remember the "Man in Black", think of it like I am building it "One piece at a time". However, I will be paying for the materials lol.

After doing a lot of reading on here, I have decided on which way I want to go with the deck.

15/32 pressure treated plywood
Kilz primer
Marine grade carpeting
3/16 closed end pop rivet
#12-14 1-1/4 stainless self drilling screw
3-M 5500 caulk

Now, before you guys start in on me about the pressure treated wood, I talked to my local dealer and that's what they suggested. That is what they use for replacing decks on Lund boats (they are the local dealer). I was planning on using this in the first place. I refuse to use marine grade plywood, unless someone wants to donate it. It is cost prohibitive. The boat brand new was less than 5k in 1995 when it was purchased new.

I know from reading that Gluv-it is highly recommended for use during a rebuild. For me, it is cost prohibitive. I am going to paint Kilz on ALL surfaces of the wood before installing it. I will make all necessary cuts before painting the wood.

After the wood is prepped, I will install and staple the carpet down on the edges and backside. The top will have the screws going through it into the stringers and the seats will be fastened to the deck as well so the carpeting should not move. I will also screw the deck into the stringers going down the middle of the boat.

As I am not going to be using a 10ft piece of wood, I will have a seam. The deck is approximately 9'7" that I am replacing. I have 4 metal seats in this boat. 2 on the starboard, 1 on the port which is also a live-well and a rear bench that goes across the back and fastens to both sides. The other 3 seats also fasten to the sides with rivets and then are screwed into the wood. My thought is that for the best stability with the seam, I should place it under the rear bench.

After the deck is installed, I am going to caulk around the entire deck and the seam. There are 4 metal pieces that run down the sides and will be screwed to the deck and stringers. I am guessing that these pieces are for water run-off. They may provide some stability as well, but since they are not attached to the side and only the floor, I don't see where they will provide that much stability. However, since they came out, they will be going back in. I am going to caulk around those as well.

Once the deck is back in, I can reattach the seats. I am going to use the caulk to go around the rivet and around the holes on the back side of the seat where it makes contact with the side of the boat. I figure by doing it this way, it should help with leakage through the rivet holes. Once the seats are riveted in, I can reattach them to the deck. I am thinking that I can probably screw them into the stringers rather than just into the floor as they were originally. I still have to take a few more measurements to make sure that screwing the seats to the stringers will work. I am using closed end rivets so that will prevent leakage through the rivet.

In talking with my local dealer, they suggested stainless steel screws instead of riveting the deck to the stringer for a couple of reasons. First, riveting the deck back in is a pain in the backside. Second, if the deck ever does have to be replaced again, it will be a lot easier to remove. I know I have read on here that you should only use aluminum on aluminum, but in talking with them, they suggested the stainless and I should have no problem with corrosion. Also, I am in school right now and if at all possible, I will have a new boat in 5 years. That's the plan right now, but don't tell my wife lol!

I am including a picture. The boat pictured is not mine since I didn't have the camera with me when I took the old deck out, which came out in a lot of pieces. The vinyl covering or whatever it is that was used to cover the deck peeled off the deck on the way out. That made for a real enjoyable day.....NOT!!!!!!!! The boat pictured is the shorter version of my boat. Instead of one seat on the starboard side, I have 2. I also do not have a front bench like the boat pictured, I have a raised deck there with a pedestal seat. I do plan on including pictures of my boat as I get closer to having all of the materials needed to replace the deck.

Any comments and/or criticisms will be appreciated.
 

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ezmobee

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I would NOT put pressure treated in your aluminum boat. I can NOT believe a dealer is doing that. I have personally seen the damage it can cause. Did you know building codes have been changed to prohibit the use of PT around aluminum siding/flashing/capping? It's cuz the stuff EATS it! Gluvit is not for the wood. It's for sealing the rivets and seams of your boat. A quart will do ya. If your boat isn't leaky it is an optional step. I can understand saving money, but I'd rather see you just use exterior ply sealed with a couple coats of porch and floor paint than kilz coated PT. Also if you want to save a couple extra bucks....deck screws from Lowes/HD work just fine and will be loads cheaper than SS ones.
 

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So no PT, got it. That won't save much as far as cash goes but it will save some. I absolutely will paint the wood before carpeting it. The original wood I figure was marine grade but was not treated in any way before the covering was applied. However, the boat remained uncovered for several years as well, so it really wouldn't have mattered if it were treated or not.

As far as the Gluvit goes, I realize that it is not used for the wood, but a quart is about 40.00+ compared to a tube of caulk for 25.00. I figure one tube should be more than enough for the rivets and to go around the entire edge of the wood.

The SS screws I plan on using are self drilling (although I may still drill a pilot) and come with a sealing washer. http://www.fastenal.com/web/products/detail.ex?sku=31979&ucst=t
This is the screw I plan on using. I realize the cost of the SS screws are pricey compared to deck screws, but I am willing to pay that cost.

All told, I will probably spend between $100 - $150 for the materials. For a boat that was less then 5k brand new, the cost is very reasonable if not very cheap. Once I have the materials, I can have the boat back together in 1 or 2 days max. I've already taken the measurements needed for the deck Including the width of the carpeting. Now it's just a matter of getting everything and putting it back together. I'm hoping to have this completed by the end of the month if not the first part of May. Once I get closer to having the materials needed, I will include pics of the restoration.
 

ezmobee

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Another benefit of painting the wood is it keeps your carpet adhesive from soaking into the wood and reducing its effectiveness. Ask me how I know this :p (my old boat)

I got what I think was a great deal on carpet for my project from Home Depot's web site. http://www.homedepot.com/Flooring-C...splay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053 I was able to get that 20' roll for way less than if I had just bought the 16' or so I really needed. I used this adhesive and oh my is that good stuff http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs...langId=-1&catalogId=10053&productId=100117949 Unfortunately they had a free shipping deal then after spending only like $50 when it's $250 now.
 

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Here is a crude diagram of the interior of the boat. I only drew what I was replacing as far as the deck went. The dots on the picture are where screws will be located. I don't plan on using as many as are shown, I wanted to give an idea of what I am planning on doing. I wasn't planning on using glue for the carpet since the side seats and bench seat will help hold the carpet down as well as the screws. The seats do get screwed to the floor and riveted to the sides. The rear bench is only riveted to the sides. I also plan on wrapping the carpet under the backside and staple it down to help hold it in place. If gluing is something that is necessary, then I will.

As far as the carpet goes, I can get an indoor-outdoor carpet with marine non-skid backing for $.50 a sq. ft. at Lowes. I haven't checked HD yet but I would bet they are comparible. It comes in a 6ft width and I only need 10'. Unless I did my math wrong, it will be about $30.00 for the amount that I need.

Hopefully the diagram will give a better understanding of what the game plan is.
 

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mruddy

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Re: 1995 Sea Nymph

how do i replace the floor in my 1995 sea nymph sv1666wt? can the floor be replaced without removing the livewell,2 storage boxes and the back bench seat?
thanks
mike
 

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Re: 1995 Sea Nymph

Mike, you need to start your own thread. Hijacking old threads is bad forum manners.
 
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