1996 Evinrude E15FREDC won't start

[Purerock Racing]

I have an issue with my 1996 E15FREDC outboard. The previous owner said there was no spark and it wouldn't start (I bought it as is). It's got lots of compression and looks brand new. I put in new plugs and see no spark, but the motor did actually fire up twice for 4-5 seconds, then I shut it off, but that's it. I assume the motor has been sitting since the gas that I drained out of the carb. smelled horribly old. Put in a fresh gallon of gas in the tank, the prime bulb was already pretty hard. Still no start again. I then drained the bowl of the carb. again, and pumped up the bulb and I could feel something pass thru and the carb filled up full after about 5-6 squeezes. First pull and it started right away, shut it off and called it a day. I let the motor sit in the garage on the stand for 2 weeks and now the same thing, I can't get it to start at all. Should I pull the carb. and fuel pump out as the first things to clean? This is a 1996 motor that looks and smells like bran new. Even the oil looks like brand new. I bet it was only used a couple of times. How do you test the coil? I see no evidence of gas in the cylinders or on the plugs after pulling the starter 20-30 times with full choke.

 

[Purerock Racing]

Re: 1996 Evinrude E15FREDC won't start

ok so last night, I tried to verify if I had spark and there was none, so I tested my 584451 coil per the manual. None of the 4 tests came out to spec.
1. Primary post should be .28 ohms, mine is less than .19 ohms
2. Each of the secondary posts (to spark plugs) should read high or infinite, mine read the same as the primary, less than .20 ohms.
3. Measurement between the 2 secondary posts should read 2300 ohms, mine is open. So, the results are in, coil is bad.

Now, this is the 584451 coil which is no longer available. There are other coils, P/N 583740 which says it will work for my engine. The only difference is the 583740 coil has 2 primary posts instead of 1, so a second lead would need to be spliced in to the existing ignition wiring, and it should work. What are your thoughts on that? The 583740 coil can be bought all day long for $40 just about anywhere.

 

[Purerock Racing]

Re: 1996 Evinrude E15FREDC won't start

ok, still no start. I have no fuel smell in the cylinders or plugs after 15-20 pulls with full choke. Took the carb. fully apart and cleaned everything, it's squeaky clean, and appears to be in excellent condition, no leaks. This motor has only started twice since I bought it 2 months ago, and now nothing at all. I cannot see any spark, but if my coil was bad, why would it have started up before and not now? I tried testing the coil and my numbers are all over the place, nothing like the spec. says in the manual. So now I'm totally confused. I should at least be smelling or seeing fuel in the cylinders right? my plugs are bone dry like brand new. They are gapped correctly too. What do you suggest? I pump up my primer bulb and you can hear fuel flow into the pump and then into the carb., is that right? or should the fuel stop at the pump till I pull the rope start? Pump appears to be nice and clean as well. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.... thank you

 

[The_Kid]

Re: 1996 Evinrude E15FREDC won't start

A quick way to test if it is a fuel problem is to grab a can of WD-40 and spray a couple of squirts in the carburetor and give the rope a pull. If she fires you have a fuel problem. If she still won't fire then it's electrical.

I'm not familiar with your model but if it has a kill switch/lanyard, or a button you push to kill the motor one of those could be bad which could be why it fired up a couple of times before but won't fire now.

 

[Purerock Racing]

Re: 1996 Evinrude E15FREDC won't start

yeah I have the push button/lanyard kill switch, and I tested that and it's seems to be ok. I tried spraying carb. cleaner in the carb. but no pop with that. I have no way of testing the stator or the ign. module, it could possibly be one of those rather than the coil... i will keep messing with it.

 

[raczekp1]

Re: 1996 Evinrude E15FREDC won't start

i had this motor model.in my exieriece if you advence trotle from idlel/start posytion-motor wil not start.
first disconect cable leading from sto switch going from switch to undernetch ignition coil
test compresion also
older type of ignition coils(2 coils, instead 1 dual coil)will work also

 

[Purerock Racing]

Re: 1996 Evinrude E15FREDC won't start

compression is like new, I think this engine was only run a few times, still smells like new. no dirt or oil or any signs of wear anywhere. So I can just disconnect the stop switch connector and eliminate that for a test and it will still start? just no way to shut it off right? As for installing 2 coils instead of one, do I just splice in another primary lead to the stock wire and will that work? I have a another dual coil, but it's the 583740 model, 2 primaries and 2 secondaries. Will that work too?

 

[The_Kid]

Re: 1996 Evinrude E15FREDC won't start

Something else to check. My 88 Evinrude Gets temperamental and doesn't like to give me any spark when it sits over the winter. I think the problem is a bad ground on the spark pack . Usually all I have to do is pull the spark pack loose, clean the ground connections and put it back together. Sometimes I have to pop a couple connectors apart and plug them back in so check all your electrical connecters for corrosion.

 

[Purerock Racing]

Re: 1996 Evinrude E15FREDC won't start

thanks, that makes sense. Since it fired up twice at ramdom times, bad ground might be an issue. I will check all that. Oh by the way, the very first time it fired up, I only had one spark plug in it... weird

 

[Purerock Racing]

Re: 1996 Evinrude E15FREDC won't start

I also wanted to ask another stupid question, how touchy is the throttle position for starting these 4 stroke motors? I've read @ idle won't start at all and if you have the throttle open too far it won't start either, so is there a special sweet spot that the throttle needs to be at?

 

[Purerock Racing]

Re: 1996 Evinrude E15FREDC won't start

well here's an update, my motor now runs and starts perfect. Turns out it may have been the ground wire to the ign. module. Or it could of been the stop button too, I cleaned both and first pull, I started hearing the cylinders firing. After messing with the choke adjustment and the mixture screw, it's starts everytime now... I am mucho happier seeing how I scored on this boat/motor setup for super cheap... and it turns out the motor now has nothing wrong with it... just ordered a watrer pump kit and I will be ready to hit the local lakes for some trout real soon.