1997 force 40 horse please help

bamboo17

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ok I just bought a 97 bass tracker problem is I have water running out of the front of the motor in the pivot area where motor turns, water pours out of that opening and runs down the side of the shaft and under the coller,, whats going on?? would this be a gasket or somthing, pulled the plug on top of motor just a lil water bubbling out when runnnning
 

john from md

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Re: 1997 force 40 horse please help

Take the cowling off and see where the water is coming from.

Let us know,

John
 

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Re: 1997 force 40 horse please help

if I knew where it was coming from id fix it !!
 

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Re: 1997 force 40 horse please help

I have a 98 Suntracker with a 98 Force 75. I also have the same issue. Additionally i have 0 water pressure althought the water pump is pumping once i get above 3000rpm it isn't pumping enough water to cool the moter and the alarm sounds. I pulled the foot yesterday and installed a water pump kit. Well that didn't solve the issue i still have no water pressure and will over heat above 3000rpm. If i find any solution to my issue that may help i will be sure to inform you ASAP.
 

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Re: 1997 force 40 horse please help

Ton does your 98 force have a pisser? mine doesnt,, and u replace your impeller?? I changed mine last nite and have good pressure, my leak is after the water goes through engine, did you pull the plug on top of cylinder(if u dont have a pisser) and check water coming out if nothing you might have a clog in the line
 

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I pulled the line for the pressure gage which come out of the top and disconnected it from the gage it is clear. Water is running through I have a very weak stream coming from the motor out of the tube once you increase the rpm to over 3000 it is enough water pressure to cool the motor. The motor was running around 7psi at the gage prior to hitting a sand bar in the Congaree River. I flushed the system both ways and like I said I also changed the impeller and gaskets. While I had the foot off I flushed it again that is when I noticed the water leak around the pivot point like you. Additionally I noticed water leaking from the outside of the tube inside the drive shaft housing. Unless these leaks are the problem I have to assume that I have sand or something inside of the power head restricting the water flow. I am going by a repair ship again today to get another set of water pump gaskets so I can pull it again. I will ask them then. If not I guess it is going to the shop or I will have to use it as one hell of an anchor.
 

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Re: 1997 force 40 horse please help

ton ,, check your powerhead mounts should be like 6 bolts when you remove that coller below the hood they are know to viberate loose all mine where loose and can cuase gasket leak or water leak ,, crank em up tight and try again also try removing your thermo stat and see what pressure u have
 

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Yeah I was going to get a new gasket and pull the thermostat today. This is the price you pay when you run in rivers where the sand bars are always changing. Yesterday after tinkering with it for 5 hours I was set on making the darn thing an anchor and buying me a new merc 90, but my wallet made me come to my senses.
 

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I have reached the end of my rope. I pulled the lower unit again and repleced the water pump. Prior to reinstalling the lower unit i pulled the thermostat and flushed the engine. From top to bottom then from the tube in the Drive shaft housing up. I didn't get any sand out of it at all. It appeared to be clear. While flushing i did notice that water did leak out past the tube where it installs in the housing. after reinstalling the foot and the thermostat housing. We refired the moter in a tank. It took it about 45 sec to pick up water and even then the stream wasn't very strong. I removed the tube running to the pressure gage very little water was coming through the fitting. So i pulled it to check for blockage. Nothing there. We did notice that a great deal of water was coming out where the "mount shock" goes into the drive shaft housing. Anyone have a clue what is going on?
 

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Re: 1997 force 40 horse please help

Sounds like the water pump is working good. A couple of other areas to check. This is a general description of how the water circulates. Might be some slight differences for different motors, but enough to give you a general idea.

Exhaust plate. Water goes directly to the exhaust plate after it goes up the water tube. There are some water passages in the exhaust plate. You have to remove the plate to check it out.

Water jacket. After the water leaves the exhaust plate, it is sent to the water jacket around the cylinders. You have to remove the head to check this. Also the head itself is two pieces. Looks like one piece but is actually two. The passage in the head it the last route the water takes before exiting the motor. The thermostat controls the water flow through the passage in the head and out of the motor.
 

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I talked with one local mechanic yesterday. First he told me that there should have been an internal screen in the foot, there wasn't. When I purchased the boat the guy told me there were two extra props in the seats I never looked at them. The one that was on the motor had some damage and the guy explained that he had hit a stump in the river. That should have been the first red flag. We started and ran the motor, worked great but I did notice that the water stream wasn't really strong like on my dad's boat that should have been the second red flag. I looked at the pressure gage and it read 5psi so I really didn't think it was an issue. After I got it home I changed the foot oil, flushed the onboard fuel tank and other general maintenance. I decided to pull out the other props and take the damaged one off. When I looked at them they were both damaged worse then the one that was on it. At that point I should have known. I replaced the prop and took it to the lake the next weekend. Boat fired and ran well but I did notice that the water pressure gage was setting on about 3psi without it running. Well I just chalked it up to me not checking well enough and that it was just something else I needed to replace. This was my first pontoon so I didn't know what to expect. I did notice that I had wash coming almost to the top of the motor and I knew I had to do something about that. So I just took it easy that day and kept it around 3500rpm. When I took it out I saw that the motor was bottom out on the transom and that the tilt pump was sticking out beyond the transom's side that would account for the wash over. So that next week I raised the motor and figured that issue was resolved. That next week end I took it to the river. My father in his boat and my family and I in ours were making the run down about 45 miles and then back up the next day. While running down we hit a sand flat that we couldn't see because of the muddy water and the problems began. It took us the remainder of that day to come back up the river 8 to 10 miles because I could only run at 3000 rpm. There was no way a 14 foot john boat with a 25 was going to pull my boat up the river against the current. To make a long story short this is this motor's first time being packed up and it wasn't flushed properly. The original owner had water pressure issues before and his answer was to remove the water intake screens. This is what has allowed me to draw not just sand but large particles into the motor. The motor is blocked where the inlet tube enters the power head also under the exhaust plate. There were not only large particles of sand, but red clay that was like cement in there. I even pulled out stones the size of a pencil eraser. After cleaning all of that out, I flushed it again the put it back together using the old gaskets. I did this to see if there may be an obstruction in the head all was clear and the new pressure gage jumped to 5psi just using a water hose. I am waiting for new gaskets now so that I can replace everything. I will post again as soon as I have everything back together. I wanted to post this so that maybe someone may learn from my foolish mistakes.
 
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