1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

dmccorki

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New to boating. Boat will be used on the Eastern Shore of MD--rivers and Chesapeake. Dock has 10,000 and 2500lbs lifts. MLW 4ft. Have operated boats in the past but it has been a very long time. Taking Power Squadron course as refresher. Mostly day use plus some evenings for guests enjoyment to visit seafood spots in Oxford, St Michaels, etc. No fishing plans. Wife requires a head. Choices at Annapolis boat show unlimited but everyone was in "sales".
All thoughts appreciated.
 

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

Lots and lots of choices I think. If price no object ...

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

you need to narrow the playing field. bowrider,deck boat, cuddy cabin, cruiser, trawler, monster boat.
 

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

Thanks for the suggestion re Hunt--a new name for me. I had looked at a Regulator and a Pursuit which seem to be similar, but both seemed oriented for fishing.
Re the question of narrowing my choice, I am looking for practical advice and have no set opinions. I assumed a bowrider, or center console would be logical but a small cuddy might be ok--one "expert" suggested a T29R Hinckley--seems to me all my needs and would certainly get some attention!
 

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

You really need to narrow it down to what you want to do. If you want to stay over in the Choptank that's one thing and if you want to do some cruising like up to Annapolis or down to Solomon?s that's another.

Are you going to use it only on nice Sunday afternoon?s or are you going 3 seasons?

The Bay is notorious for its short chop. For use inside you could get away with just about anything over 21? but outside you?re going to need something a little more substantial. Anything less than a 22-23' would severally hamper the number of days available to you.


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Lots of these running around that area of the Bay.
 

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

<Thanks for the tip on links SBN>
 

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

Dingbat--thanks for your response.
My personality would suggest 3 seasons and lots of exploring. I will learn on the Tred Avon and Choptank but hopefully will soon be exploring the bigger water. I have been looking at 25-30 feet but the choices are somewhat unlimited. I noticed the Grady Whites at the Annapolis show but really did not know what I should be looking for.
 

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

affordabilty-family-chick magnet-how well do you navigate well steer you as to size, what do you want what can you maintain etc...
 

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

Older folks who will have guests and family to entertain. Price not a controllling factor. Refreshing navigating skills with a current course. In addition to the Grady White mentioned earlier, some Chesapeake folks suggesting an Intrepid walk around.
 

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Take a ride over to Kent Narrows and walk around the docks to see what people have. Most of the "cruisers" are running Walkarounds or Express type boats. Center consoles are nice in the summer but boating in April / May and again in October / November will most liekely require the use of foul weather gear.

While your over there stop by Bay Bridge marina and take a look at the Southports. You can also stop at Tri-State Marine n Stevensville. They carry Grady and Parker which are both very popular boats on the Bay.

That Hinckley you mentioned is a pretty sharp boat as well
 

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

Dingbat
thanks. may be able to stop by today on the way to the Eastern Shore.
 

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

also look at the new bayliner cruisers.
 

dmccorki

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

As noted, stopped by the marina suggested by Dingbat today. Lots of choices but the Edgewater 268 and the Chris Craft Corsair 28 were very attractive. I have heard good things about the Edgewater, but, as I recall, Chris Craft has had some issues over the years and is now under new ownership. Any opinions about either manufacturer?
 

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i have a 1999 Chris Craft 230 Deckboat, fabulous boat. 5.7 volvo penta. has held up extremely well, used year round in Florida.
 

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How long has this dealer carried each line? In my town there are a few brands that hop from dealer to dealer every couple of years. I don't see that instability as a plus ...

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Edgewaters are decent boats. Here is a thread comparing the Edgewater to and Southport.

"http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=122534&posts=31&highlight=edgewater&highlightmode=1#M1553541"
 
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dmccorki

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

Thanks. Interestingly in light of KCooks note, the Southport dealer, Chesapeake Marine Group, at the Bay Bridge Marina, no longer carries the line. They were very complimentary of the Southport but indicated they simply were not selling enough to justify being the agent. Southport is now handled by another dealer across the road. Seems like musical chairs re who handles what.
Any way to check the reputation of the dealers like one can do on the car sites?
 

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

Perfectly good question about checking the reputation of the dealers. Unfortunately I don't know any easy answers. Other than asking around a lot. One caution I would offer is that the biggest dealers are not automatically the best. In my town the top dealers can be pretty modest in size. And some of the small fry are also to run away from. There just aren't any hard-and-fast rules on dealers.

There are various reasons a brand will jump dealers. "not selling enough to justify being the agent" often translates to "not buying enough to satisfy the builder". When a dealer has stuck with the same brand for a good number of years it means (among other things) that the dealer is comfortable with the builder's support for warranty claims. A dealer who gets stuck a lot with the warranty costs for BrandX usually will dump BrandX fairly quickly. And these warranty disputes are common. Very, very different from the car dealer game.

Kelly
 

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Re: 1st boat suggestions-Eastern shore, Md.?

Thanks. The boating world certainly has a lot of variables!
 

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As noted, stopped by the marina suggested by Dingbat today. Lots of choices but the Edgewater 268 and the Chris Craft Corsair 28 were very attractive. I have heard good things about the Edgewater, but, as I recall, Chris Craft has had some issues over the years and is now under new ownership. Any opinions about either manufacturer?

The Chris craft you mentioned while pretty is more of a "lake" boat. You would get beat to death trying to run that boat in the summer on all but the calmest of days.

If you look around the one thing you'll notice on all the smaller boats is that they have a pretty aggressive deadrise and they have a big "Carolina style" bow flare and there is a reason for that.

The Bay is oriented North–South. The prevailing wind is out of the South and is unrelenting in the summer during the day. Couple that south wind blowing against an outgoing tide and things get nasty in a hurry. You can get up on plane and run early in the morning and again in the evening if the tides are with you but during the day it will get darn right nasty, especially on an outgoing tide.



This first picture is what can happen when you get the tide moving against the wind. It can go from near calm to this in a matter of minutes with a tide change. As you can see there is no real pattern in the wave action and it's more like boating in the washing machine than anything else.

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This second photo is a pretty good representation of the day to day chop you'll see in the summer. You can see why the big bow fair is pretty useful when plowing your way home through this stuff

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I’m not trying to scare you. The Bay is a wonderful place to boat. I’m just trying to convey to you what it can look like out there at any given time. You don't want to spend good money buying a boat and then find out that the configuration isn’t suitable for the prevailing conditions.
 
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